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[106.69.136.138]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id l21sm578972pjy.31.2021.02.05.22.41.59 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Fri, 05 Feb 2021 22:42:00 -0800 (PST) References: <20210204182518.70916d47@faramir.fios-router.home> <878s8167wm.fsf@mbork.pl> User-agent: mu4e 1.5.8; emacs 27.1.91 From: Tim Cross To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Subject: Re: OT: M-S-$ Not Working Date: Sat, 06 Feb 2021 17:28:52 +1100 In-reply-to: <878s8167wm.fsf@mbork.pl> Message-ID: <87zh0hwvd7.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::433; envelope-from=theophilusx@gmail.com; helo=mail-pf1-x433.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -2.06 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=jQQOichX; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 20528940509 X-Spam-Score: -2.06 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: k6va2HBvvAon Marcin Borkowski writes: > Hi Bo, > > I know your problem is resolved now, but in case you don't know, check > also what `C-h c' does (and `C-h k' is also useful at times). In > general, spending 20 minutes on looking through what `C-h C-h' says > might save you some trouble later;-). > This is good advice. I would add that if you find that Emacs does not respond, even to say that the key is not bound or defined, it is typically a sign that something in the environment e.g. window manager or X (or Wayland) layer is not passing the key press through. These are layers which are often overlooked and I've seen people spend hours inside Emacs trying to work out what the issue is, only to later find it is at a different layer (OS, windowing environment, window manager, etc). In general, standard Emacs key bindings are robust and reliable. If a standard key binding like M-S $ doesn't work, first step is to try emacs -Q. If that still does not work, odds are high it is an issue outside of Emacs. Most common causes are WM shortcuts, modified input device definitions (as seems to be the culprit here) and modified modmap settings. Utilities like 'xev' can be useful here (not sure what wayland has). When I install a new system (regardless of platform, linux, mac, windows), my first task is usually to remove or remap shortcuts. These days, most environments use super, alt, meta and control based shortcuts, many of which interfere with my Emacs. I rarely use super in my Emacs key bindings, so often I remap useful WM shortcuts to use super. -- Tim Cross