* quotation marks in LaTeX (again)
@ 2010-10-04 20:00 Don March
2010-10-05 7:42 ` Carsten Dominik
2010-10-05 8:42 ` Sven Bretfeld
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From: Don March @ 2010-10-04 20:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
There's been some talk about quotation marks when exporting to LaTeX,
but I've noticed some issues in addition (I think) to those mentioned
by others.
"'a quote' inside a quote"
is exported to LaTeX as
``'a quote' inside a quote''
but should be
``\,`a quote' inside a quote''
Similarly,
"a quote that ends with 'a quote'"
is exported as
``a quote that ends with `a quote'''
but should be
``a quote that ends with `a quote'\,''
Implementing the \enquote solution proposed by Sven Bretfeld would a
fix for this, but that would probably have to be optional. So I was
working on a regexp fix for this, but then I realized that there's a
host of cases where the beginning quote isn't recognized as beginning
because there isn't whitespace in front of it, such as when a quote
starts a parenthetical ("like this"). Maybe the solution is to use
the list of "allowed chars in pre" from
org-emphasis-regexp-components?
Don
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* Re: quotation marks in LaTeX (again)
2010-10-04 20:00 quotation marks in LaTeX (again) Don March
@ 2010-10-05 7:42 ` Carsten Dominik
2010-10-05 14:23 ` Don March
2010-10-05 8:42 ` Sven Bretfeld
1 sibling, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Carsten Dominik @ 2010-10-05 7:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Don March; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
On Oct 4, 2010, at 10:00 PM, Don March wrote:
> There's been some talk about quotation marks when exporting to LaTeX,
> but I've noticed some issues in addition (I think) to those mentioned
> by others.
>
> "'a quote' inside a quote"
> is exported to LaTeX as
> ``'a quote' inside a quote''
> but should be
> ``\,`a quote' inside a quote''
>
> Similarly,
> "a quote that ends with 'a quote'"
> is exported as
> ``a quote that ends with `a quote'''
> but should be
> ``a quote that ends with `a quote'\,''
>
> Implementing the \enquote solution proposed by Sven Bretfeld
Could you please point me to that earlier discussion? I cannot
find it right now.
THanks!
- Carsten
> would a
> fix for this, but that would probably have to be optional. So I was
> working on a regexp fix for this, but then I realized that there's a
> host of cases where the beginning quote isn't recognized as beginning
> because there isn't whitespace in front of it, such as when a quote
> starts a parenthetical ("like this"). Maybe the solution is to use
> the list of "allowed chars in pre" from
> org-emphasis-regexp-components?
>
> Don
>
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* Re: quotation marks in LaTeX (again)
2010-10-04 20:00 quotation marks in LaTeX (again) Don March
2010-10-05 7:42 ` Carsten Dominik
@ 2010-10-05 8:42 ` Sven Bretfeld
2010-10-05 14:36 ` Don March
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From: Sven Bretfeld @ 2010-10-05 8:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Don March; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
Hi Don
Don March <don.march@gmail.com> writes:
> Implementing the \enquote solution proposed by Sven Bretfeld would a
> fix for this, but that would probably have to be optional. So I was
> working on a regexp fix for this, but then I realized that there's a
> host of cases where the beginning quote isn't recognized as beginning
> because there isn't whitespace in front of it, such as when a quote
> starts a parenthetical ("like this"). Maybe the solution is to use
> the list of "allowed chars in pre" from
> org-emphasis-regexp-components?
The different styles of quotation marks needed for different languages
might also be a problem for a regexp solution. I'm using the \enquote
method since quite a while and write English and German text in that way
without further user interference. \enquote just picks the correct
version in dependency of the babel environment.
Greetings,
Sven
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* Re: quotation marks in LaTeX (again)
2010-10-05 7:42 ` Carsten Dominik
@ 2010-10-05 14:23 ` Don March
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From: Don March @ 2010-10-05 14:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com> writes:
> On Oct 4, 2010, at 10:00 PM, Don March wrote:
>
>> Implementing the \enquote solution proposed by Sven Bretfeld
>
> Could you please point me to that earlier discussion? I cannot
> find it right now.
>
Sure--"[feature request] Quotation marks in LaTeX export", 2010-01-22,
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/21588
>
>> So I was working on a regexp fix for this, but then I realized that
>> there's a host of cases where the beginning quote isn't recognized as
>> beginning because there isn't whitespace in front of it, such as when
>> a quote starts a parenthetical ("like this"). Maybe the solution is
>> to use the list of "allowed chars in pre" from
>> org-emphasis-regexp-components?
>>
I'd be happy to work on this, by the way, but don't want to start on a
solution that other people don't want.
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* Re: quotation marks in LaTeX (again)
2010-10-05 8:42 ` Sven Bretfeld
@ 2010-10-05 14:36 ` Don March
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From: Don March @ 2010-10-05 14:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
"Sven Bretfeld" <sven.bretfeld@gmx.ch> writes:
> The different styles of quotation marks needed for different languages
> might also be a problem for a regexp solution. I'm using the \enquote
> method since quite a while and write English and German text in that way
> without further user interference. \enquote just picks the correct
> version in dependency of the babel environment.
Definitely--I agree that the csquotes solution is probably best, but
since Carsten said that would probably be an option there needs to be a
vanilla LaTeX solution too.
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