From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Noorul Islam K M Subject: Re: Variable 'org-ctrl-k-protect-subtree' defaults to nil Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2010 11:57:15 +0530 Message-ID: <87y69audks.fsf@noorul.maa.corp.collab.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Return-path: Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=60066 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PDWqS-0008G9-AI for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Nov 2010 02:29:17 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PDWqR-0002Do-2w for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Nov 2010 02:29:16 -0400 Received: from mail-gw0-f41.google.com ([74.125.83.41]:41026) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PDWqQ-0002Dh-VF for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Nov 2010 02:29:15 -0400 Received: by gwb11 with SMTP id 11so264300gwb.0 for ; Tue, 02 Nov 2010 23:29:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: (pjmtavares@hotmail.com's message of "Tue, 2 Nov 2010 15:14:27 +0000") List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: pjmtavares@hotmail.com Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org writes: > Hi everyone, > > It's the first time I'm giving any feedback on org-mode, so first of all I would like to congratulate the original creator and all contributors on a very interesting and useful work. > > I've discovered org-mode only a couple of weeks ago and was intrigued enough to restart using emacs, after several years away from it! I've been studying Org's documentation and tutorials, and started using it to help me manage my relocation from Brazil to Italy. > > What I am reporting, technically, is a feature: the fact that variable 'org-ctrl-k-protect-subtree' defaults to nil. But considering how easy this makes to lose a whole subtree of data, especially for a newcomer to org-mode, I think it should be considered a serious bug. As a matter of fact, I am very surprised that C-k would be considered an admissible alternative to C-c C-x C-w/M-w, as a way to kill a subtree! > > I propose that 'org-ctr-k-protect-subtree' is made to default to 't' ASAP (already costumized it in that way on my setup), and that the behavior of C-k on headings is made consistent: kill to the end of line, regardless of the visibility of the subtree. > I slightly disagree here. Most of the time I definitely want the entire subtree to go away. I think this is the beauty of outline mode. Thanks and Regards Noorul