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From: Rasmus <rasmus@gmx.us>
To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: New exporter, beamer confusion
Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2013 13:32:22 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87y5f1lj1l.fsf@pank.eu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: CAFniQ7WXLM5wUuo75-DUcrpxjg7vvUVG1HF6ODz-r59o6E-WcQ@mail.gmail.com

James Harkins <jamshark70@gmail.com> writes:

> Btw, *who* preferred \alert? (Orwell, Politics and the English Language:
> "Never use the passive [voice] where you can use the active.")

I prefer alert.  See the Beamer manual (texdoc beamer in texlive) on
change of style and how to use alert (e.g. alert on one particular
(sub)slide of a "multipage slide").  It's the Beamer way.  Surely it
cannot be a bad thing?

> Still, I wonder if there is a way to make the new backend less unfriendly
> toward lists. It's an interesting philosophical question: In what cases is
> it better for the tool to adapt to the users' wishes, versus cases where
> the tool should encourage (Are blocks in the result actually better than
> lists? Who says so, and why should I take his or her word for it?)

Org has many dedicated list symbols namely white space and one of
{[-+*], [0-9][.)]}.  Why should a headline be converted to a list?  It
was always awkward to me.

I don't know how hard it would be to make the "default" block (of
level 3, say) a list block, but I guess that's ultimately what you
want?  Such a behavior shouldn't be the default, IMO, since a headline
is not a list.


> "Reasonably" for me would mean tweaking some configuration options and
> perhaps changing a few minor details of the markup. If you have to change
> the org document's structure (e.g., converting headlines to lists), it
> isn't backward compatible.

I'm sure it would be relatively quick to hack together a couple of
regexps and some lisp to do the conversion if you prefer to use the
new exporter.  E.g. find every occurrence of * in the beginning of the
line of length X and convert each occurrence to "-" with appropriate
white space (e.g. X + N).

What might be useful would be a tag telling Org to use the legacy
exporter on a file basis, although it would also be a short run
solution.

–Rasmus

--
Summon the Mothership!

  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-02-06 12:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-09-09 16:37 org-url-hexify-p is not respected James Harkins
2012-09-10  1:50 ` James Harkins
2012-09-10  4:58   ` Nick Dokos
2012-09-10  6:16     ` James Harkins
2012-09-10  6:37       ` Jambunathan K
2012-09-10  6:48         ` James Harkins
2012-09-10  7:12           ` Jambunathan K
     [not found]             ` <CAFniQ7W_5QMUawD2NObyhy2_Y647as-NthobZ9OgAX4NLcVJBw@mail.gmail.com>
2012-09-11 10:22               ` James Harkins
2012-09-11 13:10                 ` Activating modules before org-install (was: org-url-hexify-p is not respected) Memnon Anon
2012-09-11 13:56                   ` Jonathan Leech-Pepin
2012-09-11 17:06                 ` org-url-hexify-p is not respected Charles Philip Chan
2012-09-23 10:05                 ` Bastien
2012-09-26 17:59                   ` Michael Brand
2012-09-26 21:50                     ` Bastien
2012-09-27  6:18                       ` Michael Brand
     [not found]   ` <jamshark70@gmail.com>
2012-08-12  2:55     ` MobileOrg, webdav, correct use of org-mobile-directory? James Harkins
2012-08-12  4:29       ` Nick Dokos
2012-08-12  7:12         ` James Harkins
2012-08-12  8:43           ` Bastien
2012-08-12  8:50             ` James Harkins
2012-08-12 13:11           ` Nick Dokos
2012-08-18 23:25             ` Adam Spiers
2012-08-19  1:35               ` Adam Spiers
2012-08-19  5:49                 ` James Harkins
2012-08-20 20:03                 ` Rémi Vanicat
2012-08-19  2:41               ` Nick Dokos
2012-08-12 11:38         ` James Harkins
2012-08-12 12:40           ` Nick Dokos
2012-08-12 13:12             ` Nick Dokos
2012-09-29 16:34     ` LaTeX beamer export: relative file links? Nick Dokos
2012-09-30  2:04       ` James Harkins
2013-01-10  3:40     ` <M-S-left/right> changed? Nick Dokos
2013-01-10  9:17       ` James Harkins
2013-02-05  7:21     ` New exporter, beamer confusion Nick Dokos
2013-02-05  9:01       ` James Harkins
2013-02-05 13:20         ` Sebastien Vauban
2013-02-05 13:55         ` Nick Dokos
2013-02-05 19:03         ` Nicolas Goaziou
2013-02-06  0:11           ` Eric S Fraga
2013-02-06 18:55             ` Nicolas Goaziou
2013-02-06 22:39               ` Eric S Fraga
2013-02-07 12:31                 ` Nicolas Goaziou
     [not found]                   ` <37646106030B4CA98C6A7717FBD89D50@gmail.com>
     [not found]                     ` <87vca4jigj.fsf@gmail.com>
2013-02-07 14:49                       ` Vincent Beffara
2013-02-07 14:58                         ` Nicolas Goaziou
2013-02-07 17:08                           ` Rasmus
2013-02-07 21:48                             ` Nicolas Goaziou
2013-02-07 23:38                               ` Rasmus
2013-02-08 21:41                                 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2013-02-08 13:40                   ` Eric S Fraga
2013-02-06  2:12           ` James Harkins
2013-02-06  4:35             ` Eric S Fraga
2013-02-06 12:32             ` Rasmus [this message]
2013-02-06 13:12               ` Suvayu Ali
2013-02-06 13:45               ` Sebastien Vauban
2013-02-06 19:57             ` Nicolas Goaziou
2013-02-07  1:32               ` James Harkins
2013-02-05  9:36       ` Eric S Fraga
2013-02-25  6:25     ` How to make the new exporter open PDF using evince? James Harkins
2013-02-25  7:01       ` Mike Gauland
2013-02-25  6:52     ` Nick Dokos
2013-02-25 13:06       ` James Harkins
2013-02-26  2:40         ` Martin Marier
2013-02-27  9:51           ` James Harkins
     [not found] <CAFniQ7UgwaQ5jO2r7iJ7PbakWfpvsJGZw2FNNf+sawwvKqSUqQ@mail.gmail.com>
2012-09-29  5:55 ` LaTeX beamer export: relative file links? James Harkins
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2013-01-10  2:38 <M-S-left/right> changed? James Harkins
2013-02-04  4:00 New exporter, beamer confusion James Harkins
2013-02-04  6:39 ` Suvayu Ali
2013-02-04  8:55   ` James Harkins
2013-02-04 19:51     ` Nicolas Goaziou
2013-02-05  0:09       ` James Harkins
2013-02-05 12:32       ` Eric S Fraga
2013-02-05 18:06         ` Nicolas Goaziou
2013-02-05 23:49           ` Eric S Fraga

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