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From: Nicolas Goaziou <n.goaziou@gmail.com>
To: Aaron Ecay <aaronecay@gmail.com>
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] [PATCH] conditional use of latex packages
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 16:19:15 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87y5eh1yq4.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1361419346-23146-1-git-send-email-aaronecay@gmail.com> (Aaron Ecay's message of "Wed, 20 Feb 2013 23:02:21 -0500")

Hello,

Aaron Ecay <aaronecay@gmail.com> writes:

> The current way that org handles LaTeX packages for export isn’t
> optimal.  The org-latex-(default-)packages-alist variables define a set
> of packages that are loaded always.  If a user wants to use advanced
> functionality (booktabs for nicer table export, listings or minted for
> nicer source code), s/he has to add the packages to these variables
> manually.And a package like longtables is imported into every
> document, slowing down compilation even when it is not used.

I think you are misusing latex back-end configuration.

Obviously, if you need a package in every document you write, it should
go into `org-latex-packages-alist'.

If you need occasional packages, they should go into
`org-latex-classes'. Adding a new class is cheap. For example you can
create a class "article-with-tikz". It also allows to include arbitrary
code within the header.

> The attached patches (specifically 1, 2, and 5) introduce a mechanism to
> load certain packages only when needed.  It is possible to customize
> these packages by specifying options to be passed to their \usepackage
> (only inserted if needed to properly export the document), as well as
> arbitrary code to place in the document’s preamble if the package is
> used.

I don't want to take that route. Bad things can happen if you load
packages in the wrong order, or with wrong options. This is a can of
worms. That's why no package is ever loaded automatically.

Notwithstanding conditional package insertion, `org-latex-classes'
provides the same set of features.

> The other patches in the series (3, 4) fix the latex exporter’s handling
> of tikz image files, as generated by R’s tikzDevice function.
> Currently, a link to the file containing the graphics code is inserted.
> The proper behavior is to \input the file; the source code therein is
> compiled into a graph by LaTeX as it compiles the document.  (Tikz is a
> very expensive latex package to load; the ability to load tikz only when
> necessary motivated the optional packages mechanism.)

I don't mind that change. Would you mind providing it as a separate set
of patches?

Anyway, nothing can be applied before FSF registration is complete.

> I think these patches need more testing, but I wanted to send them along
> for feedback.  If it is not desired to change the status quo
> wrt. packages like booktabs and minted (must be manually added), and
> wrapfig and longtable (will always be used even if not needed), it would
> be possible to accept only patches 1, 3, and 4.  (But obviously I think
> the other patches are a marked improvement.)

I don't mind removing "longtable" from
`org-latex-default-packages-alist'. I think there's no reason for it to
be there.


Regards,

-- 
Nicolas Goaziou

  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-02-21 15:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-02-21  4:02 [RFC] [PATCH] conditional use of latex packages Aaron Ecay
2013-02-21  4:02 ` [PATCH 1/5] ox-latex: add optional-packages machinery Aaron Ecay
2013-02-21  4:02 ` [PATCH 2/5] ox-latex: convert source code and table export to use optional packages Aaron Ecay
2013-02-21  4:02 ` [PATCH 3/5] ob-R: change the file extension for tikz figures Aaron Ecay
2013-02-21  4:02 ` [PATCH 4/5] ox-latex: Treat tikz files as images Aaron Ecay
2013-02-21  4:02 ` [PATCH 5/5] ox-latex: Convert the image inclusion code to use optional packages Aaron Ecay
2013-02-21  9:51 ` [RFC] [PATCH] conditional use of latex packages Suvayu Ali
2013-02-21 15:19 ` Nicolas Goaziou [this message]
2013-02-21 17:33   ` Aaron Ecay
2013-02-21 18:39     ` Nicolas Goaziou
2013-02-24 18:47       ` Aaron Ecay
2013-02-24 18:50         ` [PATCH] ox-latex: add optional-packages machinery Aaron Ecay

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