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From: Eric Schulte <schulte.eric@gmail.com>
To: Rainer M Krug <Rainer@krugs.de>
Cc: Bastien <bzg@gnu.org>,
	"emacs-orgmode@gnu.org" <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>,
	"Charles C. Berry" <ccberry@ucsd.edu>,
	Eric Schulte <schulte.eric@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [babel][PATCHES] ob-R patches for review
Date: Mon, 12 May 2014 09:21:09 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87y4y7uifu.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: m2fvkfv1jn.fsf@krugs.de

>> If not would you mind submitting a version of the patches split into
>> multiple commits with as much of the hard-coded R code as feasible
>> placed into customizable variables along the lines of the
>> `org-babel-R-assign-elisp-function' variable suggested by Charles.  
>
> I am thinking of actually not providing the R code in org-variables, but
> to put them into R files and to source them. By doing this, the
> customization could be done in R, which will be much easier for R users
> then to customize emacs variables.
>

I think this is a bad idea, such external R source files may be hard to
manage and load reliably across systems and it is not clear where they
should live in the Org-mode repository.  Additionally, if the variables
simply hold R code text, then users can easily initialize them from R
files locally with something like the following.

    (setq org-babel-R-assign-elisp-function
          (with-temp-buffer
            (insert-file-contents-literally "personal.R")
            (buffer-string)))

I think this approach is much simpler.

Best,
Eric

>
> These would be sourced and stored into an environment "org:functions",
> using the same approach as ESS is using to store functions into an
> environment "ESSR". I would then put the variables transfered into
> "org:variables". These environments would only exist in the search path,
> and not overwrite any user set objects in R.
>
> As it needs to be sourced for each R process once, the right place would
> be in  org-babel-R-initiate-session - correct?
>
> What would be the best place to put these R files? 
>
>> One lesson I've certainly learned from the Org-mode mailing list is
>> that you can't anticipate all of the ways that your code will be used,
>> so up-front customizability generally pays off.
>
> OK - point taken - and I am definitely one of those users who thinks
> about unusual usages of certain features.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Rainer
>
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Eric
>>
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Rainer

-- 
Eric Schulte
https://cs.unm.edu/~eschulte
PGP: 0x614CA05D

  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-05-12 15:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-04-29 12:43 [babel][PATCHES] ob-R patches for review Rainer M Krug
2014-04-29 18:15 ` Charles Berry
2014-04-30 12:28   ` Rainer M Krug
2014-04-30 22:49     ` Charles C. Berry
2014-05-01  9:10       ` Rainer M Krug
2014-05-07 10:27 ` Eric Schulte
2014-05-08  2:26   ` Charles Berry
2014-05-08 10:02     ` Rainer M Krug
2014-05-09  9:11       ` Rainer M Krug
2014-05-09 12:02         ` Rainer M Krug
2014-05-08  9:57   ` Rainer M Krug
2014-05-09 13:03     ` Bastien
2014-05-09 13:45       ` Rainer M Krug
2014-05-09 14:34         ` Eric Schulte
2014-05-12  8:33           ` Rainer M Krug
2014-05-12 12:23             ` Suvayu Ali
2014-05-12 12:41               ` Rainer M Krug
2014-05-12 14:01             ` Queestion concerning lists - was: " Rainer M Krug
2014-05-12 15:23               ` Eric Schulte
2014-05-12 15:21             ` Eric Schulte [this message]
2014-05-12 19:08               ` Rainer M Krug
2014-05-12 22:05                 ` Charles C. Berry
     [not found]                   ` <m2y4y2f499.fsf@krugs.de>
2014-05-16 18:22                     ` Charles C. Berry
2014-06-06 16:11                 ` Eric Schulte

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