From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Eric Abrahamsen Subject: Re: [OFF TOPIC] almost giving up on emacs email..looking for advice? Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2015 17:09:20 +0800 Message-ID: <87y4hgdgan.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> References: <87egjgyo09.fsf@gmail.com> <6sw6c7vbcmypwh.fsf@dhcp-6-148.hmco.com> <87pp2tgmcz.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87h9o4zyzq.fsf@gmx.us> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:35100) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZPS2Y-0007VQ-4V for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Aug 2015 05:09:43 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZPS2Q-0001Mt-HB for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Aug 2015 05:09:42 -0400 Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:56970) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZPS2Q-0001Md-Ae for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Aug 2015 05:09:34 -0400 Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZPS2N-0003GY-73 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Aug 2015 11:09:31 +0200 Received: from 114.250.104.125 ([114.250.104.125]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 12 Aug 2015 11:09:31 +0200 Received: from eric by 114.250.104.125 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 12 Aug 2015 11:09:31 +0200 List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Rasmus writes: > Eric Abrahamsen writes: > >> Peter Salazar writes: >> >>> Like Fabrice, I also still process my email using the Gmail web >>> interface. The only reason I want email within Emacs is so I can >>> compose replies in a proper editor with all my keybindings. I tried >>> Chrome's Edit with Emacs, but it loses line breaks when it sends the >>> output from Emacs back to Gmail. So I prefer to write replies within >>> Emacs. >>> >>> Since I only need a small fraction of my emails to go through Emacs, I >>> set up mbsync to pull only my starred messages: >>> >>> Channel gmail-starred >>> Master :gmail-remote:"[Gmail]/Starred" >>> Slave :gmail-local:starred >>> Create Both >>> Expunge Both >>> SyncState * >>> >>> If this is of interest to you I can share my setup. >> >> I agree that having email accessible locally is key to making Gnus >> usable. All my email is synced to local dovecot server, and Gnus >> accesses that -- no lag at all. Sending messages is still a big pain, >> though. I send using msmtp, and there's an add-on called msmtp-queue >> that would apparently allow Gnus to hand off messages instantly, but >> I've never spent the time to get it set up. I sure wish IMAP could >> handle both sending and receiving messages! > > Sending messages in Gnus is trival these days. It works out of the box > when you add a X-Message-SMTP-Method header (and GCC for saving a copy to > Sent). I use smtp server from GMX, my own mail server and Outlook (I've > used google mail in the past). It's not trivial when you live in China :) I can make it work, between alternate IP addresses and ssh tunnels, but it involves a lot of cursing and grinding my teeth. In a hostile network environment any client will face the same problems, but the lack of threading becomes pretty apparent here. Someday I will set up my own mail server, when I'm in bed with a broken leg, maybe. I have so many "broken-leg" projects waiting, I hate to think of what sort of accident I'd have to be in to get them all completed.