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From: Nicolas Goaziou <mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr>
To: Bastien Guerry <bzg@gnu.org>
Cc: Org-mode <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Add ob-sclang.el for sclang Org-mode babel support in contrib/
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2017 11:20:20 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87y3sobagb.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87bmplrnho.fsf@bzg.fr> (Bastien Guerry's message of "Sun, 18 Jun 2017 23:32:03 +0200")

Hello,

Bastien Guerry <bzg@gnu.org> writes:

> Maybe I miss something: when I create a file with C-x C-f whatever.el RET
> it does not use a template or does not get created with lexical
> binding on.
> What are you referring to when you say "every Elisp file created
> activates it"?

It requires to activate `autoinsert' feature, which is bundled with
Emacs.

>   * Dynamic Binding::         The default for binding local variables in Emacs.

OK. I stand corrected. Let me rephrase this then:

  There is absolutely no drawback in using lexical binding. Since Org
  9.0, it _is_ the default for Org core: almost every Org library
  activates it nowadays. Please, pretty please, don't suggest it is
  different.

> Whether lexical binding is a good default or not is another question,
> and whether lexical-binding:t makes sense in a file with no binding
> yet another, third one.

Let's consider this a non-starter. 

Again, lexical binding has _no_ drawback and makes life of developers
easier (e.g., code is more readable, compiler reports more errors).
I moved almost every library in Org to lexical binding, some changes
being trivial, some painful, for a reason. I don't want to do a step
backward in that area without a very strong reason–to tell the truth,
even a strong reason wouldn't convince me.

In particular, I don't want to introduce scoping bugs in a library
because, at its creation, lexical binding wasn't activated and nobody
cared to check the first line of the file before introducing a dubious
binding.

I sincerely hope we can agree on the topic, hic et nunc, and move on to
actual coding.


Regards,

-- 
Nicolas Goaziou

  reply	other threads:[~2017-06-19  9:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-06-09  0:43 Add ob-sclang.el for sclang Org-mode babel support in contrib/ numbchild
2017-06-10  8:17 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2017-06-11  2:02   ` numbchild
2017-06-14 14:02     ` Nicolas Goaziou
2017-06-15  6:21       ` Bastien Guerry
2017-06-15  7:53         ` numbchild
2017-06-15  7:56           ` numbchild
2017-06-15  8:26             ` Bastien Guerry
2017-06-15 11:19               ` numbchild
2017-06-15 11:14       ` numbchild
2017-06-15 12:38         ` Bastien Guerry
2017-06-16 23:25           ` numbchild
2017-06-17 10:53             ` Bastien Guerry
2017-06-17 12:23               ` numbchild
2017-06-17 12:46                 ` Bastien Guerry
2017-06-17 13:14                   ` numbchild
2017-06-17 14:27               ` Nicolas Goaziou
2017-06-18  8:34                 ` Bastien Guerry
2017-06-18  9:31                   ` Nicolas Goaziou
2017-06-18 19:45                     ` Bastien Guerry
2017-06-18 20:37                       ` Nicolas Goaziou
2017-06-18 21:32                         ` Bastien Guerry
2017-06-19  9:20                           ` Nicolas Goaziou [this message]
2017-06-19 10:14                             ` Kaushal Modi
2017-06-19 10:37                             ` Bastien Guerry
2017-06-19 14:44                               ` numbchild

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