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From: Nicolas Goaziou <mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr>
To: No Wayman <iarchivedmywholelife@gmail.com>
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] DOCT: Declarative Org Capture Templates
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2020 12:01:20 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87y2qlgq33.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87wo66t8i7.fsf@gmail.com> (No Wayman's message of "Thu, 23 Apr 2020 13:30:25 -0400")

Hello,

No Wayman <iarchivedmywholelife@gmail.com> writes:

> * [RFC] DOCT: Declarative Org Capture Templates

Thank you for your work. 

I have some comments.

Disclaimer: I am only using very basic capture templates. So, I cannot
comment realistically on the new syntax you suggest. In particular, the
example you give is way too complex for me to understand the benefits of
your syntax. I suggest to start out with showing simple use-cases.

Anyway, I hope more advanced capture template users can chime in and
comment your design.

My beginner questions are the following :

- Is it compatible with the current syntax? If it isn't, is there a way
  to ease transition to the new syntax?

- Is it simple to use on simple use-cases?

- Is it more capable than the current syntax, i.e., does it handle
  situations that are not possible, even in a convoluted way, currently?

> - DOCT validates templates before runtime execution.
>
> For exmaple, you have a template with an entry type of `'entry' 
> and you forget the leading star in the template string.
> Days later you go to use that template. It's borked.

This is different from introducing a new syntax for capture templates.

Actually, `org-insert-place-item' and `org-capture-place-table-line'
both try to fix misshaped templates already. OTOH
`org-capture-place-entry' merely calls `org-capture-verify-tree' on the
template, i.e., it barfs if the template is ill-defined. It is
a discrepancy we could fix independently on your new syntax.

I invite you to propose a patch for `org-capture-place-entry' so it does
a better job at fixing the initial template, if needed. I'll gladly
apply it.


Regards,

-- 
Nicolas Goaziou


  reply	other threads:[~2020-04-24 10:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-04-23 17:30 No Wayman
2020-04-24 10:01 ` Nicolas Goaziou [this message]
2020-04-24 18:01   ` No Wayman
2022-03-20 10:19     ` [RFC] DOCT: Declarative Org Capture Templates (easier template syntax) Ihor Radchenko
2022-03-20 13:17       ` Nicolas Goaziou
2022-03-21  9:14         ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-03-23 16:31           ` Nicolas Goaziou
2022-03-23 21:28             ` Tim Cross
2022-03-24  0:39             ` No Wayman
2022-03-26  8:30               ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-03-27 14:46                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-03-29 14:19                 ` Matt Price
2022-03-20 15:56       ` Mark Barton
2022-03-21  8:51         ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-03-23 14:32       ` João Pedro de Amorim Paula
2022-03-24 18:43       ` physiculus

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