From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp0 ([2001:41d0:2:bcc0::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms0.migadu.com with LMTPS id aOEvEzaWmWAnVgAAgWs5BA (envelope-from ) for ; Mon, 10 May 2021 22:23:18 +0200 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:bcc0::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp0 with LMTPS id EGfFDjaWmWDuNwAA1q6Kng (envelope-from ) for ; Mon, 10 May 2021 20:23:18 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C6D4ABAB1 for ; Mon, 10 May 2021 22:23:16 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost ([::1]:56674 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lgCQs-0007FA-PD for larch@yhetil.org; Mon, 10 May 2021 16:23:14 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:51664) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lgCQO-0007F2-C1 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 10 May 2021 16:22:45 -0400 Received: from relay7-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.200]:45113) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lgCQJ-0006hs-9o for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 10 May 2021 16:22:43 -0400 X-Originating-IP: 185.131.40.67 Received: from localhost (40-67.ipv4.commingeshautdebit.fr [185.131.40.67]) (Authenticated sender: admin@nicolasgoaziou.fr) by relay7-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9ACD720002; Mon, 10 May 2021 20:22:35 +0000 (UTC) From: Nicolas Goaziou To: "Bruce D'Arcus" Subject: Re: [wip-cite-new] New natbib processor References: <87eeel44gt.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <87wnsc2hag.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <87y2coz3l7.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <878s4nzmcd.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> Mail-Followup-To: "Bruce D'Arcus" , Org Mode List Date: Mon, 10 May 2021 22:22:34 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Bruce D'Arcus's message of "Mon, 10 May 2021 13:07:47 -0400") Message-ID: <87y2cmwd85.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Received-SPF: pass client-ip=217.70.183.200; envelope-from=mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr; helo=relay7-d.mail.gandi.net X-Spam_score_int: -25 X-Spam_score: -2.6 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: Org Mode List Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1620678196; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post; bh=wR/KkOQJgTuCcV2xtjY8286scow47o+za4ibRei+zI4=; b=js79c7bGsTuxy2Q3A03NfGMiEqb84ebU69v5pD18DvednKjf0Sl6eLuuARgtFMFn2jfq9e t48k4vtmcrNxQdxRPw+26j+J/BsdxYDvnM0wzpLksGSI8LOiQpaAAqTfWm0Y4P53k9PqlH J38aQBd+OLJ+zaDRUIFn5agy16+Ov6Yhikpa9uJlaEBV3Kf8NkgFsZC/3nz04W4pAhL7HT PWBl3A96Q2zRWD99rDFkaH+GRLY8bE/AhqeNL7/X0s6i/0gDhvR62RKETQRkVwve2hjSe4 miS1WDqx0HfeyOQ7b8V+yg89At8XrCokq/1RQoTGBzi1WN+C9dgjZoVSsjsQMw== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1620678196; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=cQYi0XP6oHezupp4RBqLoN7kFMBA0u2iv7LtciMAGXlhuke3ywrvP7ha9vB1/2ier6UL9n Vv01DsPVsUp5NPS4OFJemnEah1xgAJs6EPtXQ+yKqsLYW1RPfFqjMLgE4YypyfipOXQC9/ qyB9uBUOao0ZIlSu/fmihVvT+ctycpmkHqDMcTs3uEQBCC5KCuxFTeVI1IO4eXGsEY0HEy TiSMKP9vhXVziQPzp6GysI3ds5OTEL/WgI2t4QZZISTnHYqpUPv9IT5wSHXn1yFEQvcVEx XVj5y5NFrwYeo9Q7OIXBNNMiyPrff0pj8cTUMM0MWmEt/vwPzUeekK5QJlEQZg== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -0.95 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: C6D4ABAB1 X-Spam-Score: -0.95 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: pqyhOeoIPpwX Hello, "Bruce D'Arcus" writes: > Minor suggestion Nicolas: > > Currently, oc-natbib ignores global affixes. It is slightly more subtle. It ignores global affixes when there is a single citation reference. With multiple keys, it ignores local affixes and uses global ones instead. > But it seems ideally the code would preprend the global prefix to the local > prefix of the first cite. > > So [cite:global ;local @doe] should yield \citep[global local ][]{doe}. The [cite:global ;local @doe] construct sounds odd. I also find the current state predictable. Do you still find concatenation prefix-only concatenation more appropriate? Also, what would happen with multiple keys? Regards, -- Nicolas Goaziou