From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp0 ([2001:41d0:8:6d80::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms0.migadu.com with LMTPS id UGwRCuKdrGFwggEAgWs5BA (envelope-from ) for ; Sun, 05 Dec 2021 12:09:22 +0100 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:8:6d80::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp0 with LMTPS id ALnSBeKdrGHrEAAA1q6Kng (envelope-from ) for ; Sun, 05 Dec 2021 11:09:22 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BD290962B for ; Sun, 5 Dec 2021 12:09:21 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost ([::1]:48124 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mtpOS-0007cE-0d for larch@yhetil.org; Sun, 05 Dec 2021 06:09:20 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:57528) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mtpNg-0007bu-Qe for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Dec 2021 06:08:32 -0500 Received: from mout02.posteo.de ([185.67.36.66]:34575) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mtpNd-0001B0-8x for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Dec 2021 06:08:32 -0500 Received: from submission (posteo.de [89.146.220.130]) by mout02.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EA35C240103 for ; Sun, 5 Dec 2021 12:08:23 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1638702503; bh=AOlWurhSGYp562mCvFla+zXkZmI6O2AzTxhIfbkfQ3M=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:From; b=ekumXqhCcaiKurEA+LmH9ajuq2absDVZ5mqANthfwvR+VcS840kN3mEXBL9+1fb1x 3bxWSSEZ/Xzgoc6P9GA+RwvvelwiAVojzcaoIxNMLZ1DVzDc8HhoswuQ4snv04pql9 InjBpsoy3OWHbHy/tNVkkCWPSPVnv0h0TM7FU6ClNFOSEz3oW/5ojI6zRcEA9yRBms JLfObB8zJDEFC5lqgYxpA53X9eMZmovWOrh4094Fc+qunKfLJJiogTNAhDmVPVT790 +J35DH8CO6rIoM+y1OvSHsoFUDdka9psiv+B6Ya087UsSvSwq2H6lIHW8qeb352Hdo YevdL1tHl6/cw== Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4J6P1g1DB7z9rwg; Sun, 5 Dec 2021 12:08:22 +0100 (CET) From: =?utf-8?Q?Juan_Manuel_Mac=C3=ADas?= To: Ihor Radchenko Subject: Re: Concrete suggestions to improve Org mode third-party integration :: an afterthought following Karl Voit's Orgdown proposal References: <87tufnbj1w.fsf@localhost> <87sfv75s4r.fsf@posteo.net> <87o85vbb9a.fsf@localhost> Date: Sun, 05 Dec 2021 11:08:20 +0000 In-Reply-To: <87o85vbb9a.fsf@localhost> (Ihor Radchenko's message of "Sun, 05 Dec 2021 18:24:01 +0800") Message-ID: <87y24zs40r.fsf@posteo.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.67.36.66; envelope-from=maciaschain@posteo.net; helo=mout02.posteo.de X-Spam_score_int: -43 X-Spam_score: -4.4 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: orgmode Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1638702561; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=Yrz/yABcCVJpv8Lo9LPnpSZH0wkMN9DaO1RvlsSfoKo=; b=tTs+8L6azvwNufnsXWsoIPb8hb5YEvZLpI8qB07oG5UoyAAyTu7K6CZS23/ky7gxG0MTWD hAZsbF0cHEPBl7KQxkhG2Yki8tqttLOlmJlZCYr2kfDmTl7imYPydYRcYAMKJKWw/Wh36T 2pvk7lEmX5wJw3hlsVPTW2egtO0BvoSQLkZN9ymINby/yb40WH91swhNfXGegnuwxCBFF0 pYx8cn5KTFc3deFrdAOPNMFZa5Lbn9rV3/5PfF7eQsvvoljQNF9nGkKc8XNjMdksqa4uWL zaVY1fo9oJiXwqflpPSzAuKpfegnopSyXe2yRQ2pOe0tixieJJSQ2YbHY4e5UA== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1638702561; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=VtWworRmYE3hLaWWrdPU9BqwCShpJ92KJkhPt/T9YI7hK0avl4Bk6ovMd2r16IvmzE0cMw w2qS9IzaKBLdMQy8rAU0oPrSFTWT7lzRvtDaTLWJ6kjlavyYSbA8AsVk/d15BlEFWSdmLe xmNIKRp1qEMSpg/paI0YlqV4E7+NLJ0EbgvPLU4fq6BBFn1a6w2dfOgXbxMlQtTkdaAQsh 8gLj/Y7PRrbLZtziOwCStps/kkbcaeEj5G41pN+ULOOo0wMv0/7Uuci+u0V7unAlwdra2u l1apmhm2DEb84XbQSalzRzGGZAiiBAV33d2TjOiwIxKL7+VFHQ1g/SPruiFbyA== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=posteo.net header.s=2017 header.b=ekumXqhC; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=posteo.net; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -4.33 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=posteo.net header.s=2017 header.b=ekumXqhC; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=posteo.net; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: BD290962B X-Spam-Score: -4.33 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: D8uJvqihXsWI Ihor Radchenko writes: > I view "Org Mode" as a "brand name". Something uniquely identifying Org > mode and serving as a search term. Yes, it makes sense. > Is it your principal position about the title specifically? Do you think > that just referring to Emacs in the website description is not > sufficient? > Note that my suggestion #1 has nothing to do with actual orgmode.org > front page. Just about how it appears in search results. Yes, sorry for not explaining myself well: I was also referring to search results, not the title in the web site... But the question is: what need is there to remove the reference to Emacs in the search result? I think the emphasis is necessary. As we say in spanish, it's like putting the bandage on before the wound. If there are people who think that Org Mode can 'live' in some way outside of Emacs (a respectable opinion, but that I do not share, at least 100%), I think the burden of the work falls on them and not on us, the users of Emacs-Org-Mode. Anyway it is my simple and subjetive opinion, and it is not my intention to initiate a controversy with it. Best regards, Juan Manuel