From: Achim Gratz <Stromeko@nexgo.de>
To: 10125@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#10125: RFE: require and load-path-shadowing
Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2013 17:06:53 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87wqvjd7qa.fsf@Rainer.invalid> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <81pqgh90sp.fsf@gmail.com>
Stefan Monnier writes:
> I guess we could fork Emacs early on and keep this second process
> around as a "process from which to generate new clean slates".
I've been thinking about something like this for a while… if it worked
at least as well as starting a new Emacs instance on all platforms, I'd
favor this approach.
> - outdated .elc file taking precedence over the new .el file can do
> the same.
Yes, but you get a warning and can already arrange for this (by binding
the appropriate variables) to be no problem in practise. See the way
org-reload works in current master (of the Org repo).
> - bytecompiling a file affects the running session by side-effects such
> as requiring packages.
If that problem was finally solved that would be very welcome.
> I suggested a quick&dirty solution:
>> > E.g. we could add to bytecomp.el the ability to force `require' to
>> > reload a package if it's not already loaded from the file that
>> > locate-library returns.
>
> I still think it's not a bad option.
Would an advice work in this situation (given that require is a
primitive)? If yes, I'd like to give it a try over the weekend. If
not, I don't really see why require, more specifically the part that
checks features needs to be a primitive, so maybe it could be moved
partly to elisp.
> Of course, we'd still get trouble when the loading is not performed via
> `require' but via autoload (maybe we could try and attack this problem
> by allowing `autoload' to override an already existing definition, but
> that could be delicate).
That I'd like to split off from the discussion about require.
> I don't see why that would introduce a difficulty.
As long as the package is properly namespaced, why not allow for
removing all definitions pertaining to that entire namespace (features,
autoloads, definitions, …)?
Regards,
Achim.
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[not found] <87sj68eogm.fsf@Rainer.invalid>
[not found] ` <mthamoy574.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org>
2013-01-11 1:57 ` bug#10125: RFE: require and load-path-shadowing Stefan Monnier
[not found] ` <jwvvcb47bs0.fsf-monnier+emacs__21035.4545656175$1357869514$gmane$org@gnu.org>
2011-11-24 12:12 ` 24.0.91; package.el (org): Macros in tar packages & order of byte compilation Jambunathan K
2002-01-01 0:33 ` bug#10125: " Jambunathan K
2011-11-24 13:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-11-24 17:22 ` Jambunathan K
2011-11-24 19:09 ` Glenn Morris
[not found] ` <v062i9tk0d.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org>
2011-11-24 19:53 ` Glenn Morris
2011-11-24 22:55 ` Stelian Iancu
2011-11-24 23:54 ` Glenn Morris
2011-11-25 3:31 ` Jambunathan K
2011-11-25 12:32 ` Stelian Iancu
[not found] ` <CAKvLAojUzYmrUF_64WXEbj9zmBjzZ4gn5cDYVqLTcik41PFJ7w@mail.gmail.com>
2011-11-25 12:58 ` Jambunathan K
2011-11-25 8:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
[not found] ` <hffwhdqov3.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org>
2011-11-25 12:15 ` Jambunathan K
2011-11-25 14:07 ` Chong Yidong
[not found] ` <87r50w47o3.fsf@gnu.org>
2011-11-25 14:57 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-11-25 19:15 ` Glenn Morris
2011-11-25 19:21 ` Glenn Morris
2011-11-25 18:19 ` Glenn Morris
2011-11-25 19:01 ` Glenn Morris
[not found] ` <83vcq88vwt.fsf@gnu.org>
2011-11-25 18:20 ` Glenn Morris
2013-01-11 16:06 ` Achim Gratz [this message]
[not found] ` <jwvvcb34qjg.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>
2013-01-11 16:56 ` bug#10125: RFE: require and load-path-shadowing Stefan Monnier
2013-01-11 19:53 ` Achim Gratz
2013-01-11 22:52 ` Stefan Monnier
[not found] ` <jwvlibz2v6e.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>
2013-01-12 8:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-01-12 10:15 ` Achim Gratz
2013-01-12 13:34 ` Bastien
2013-01-12 14:03 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-01-12 14:23 ` Bastien
[not found] ` <87liby7a57.fsf@bzg.ath.cx>
2013-01-12 16:12 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-01-12 17:34 ` Bastien
2013-01-12 10:20 ` Achim Gratz
2013-01-12 12:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-01-12 13:28 ` Stefan Monnier
[not found] ` <jwvehhqy1k8.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>
2013-01-12 13:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
[not found] ` <83wqvisdxx.fsf__30242.1131091707$1357998993$gmane$org@gnu.org>
[not found] ` <87ip72fi8f.fsf@Rainer.invalid>
2013-01-12 18:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-01-12 18:42 ` Glenn Morris
[not found] ` <71vcb22qgz.fsf__38024.2966501557$1358016217$gmane$org@fencepost.gnu.org>
[not found] ` <87hamlbk3w.fsf__41794.7558024482$1358063310$gmane$org@Rainer.invalid>
[not found] ` <87hamis0js.fsf@Rainer.invalid>
2013-01-16 9:45 ` Kevin Rodgers
[not found] ` <kd5spq$1hh$1@ger.gmane.org>
2013-01-16 10:06 ` Andreas Schwab
[not found] ` <mvmtxqh5tn0.fsf@hawking.suse.de>
2013-01-16 14:59 ` Kevin Rodgers
2013-01-12 16:29 ` Achim Gratz
2013-01-12 17:01 ` Achim Gratz
2013-01-13 7:46 ` Achim Gratz
2013-01-13 7:52 ` Achim Gratz
2013-01-15 19:34 ` Achim Gratz
2013-01-11 2:45 ` Jambunathan K
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