From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Achim Gratz Subject: Re: Upgrade to org 8.0 Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2013 17:54:23 +0200 Message-ID: <87wqpn8no0.fsf@Rainer.invalid> References: <20130621143836.GC9340@kuru.dyndns-at-home.com> <87sj0ba2kn.fsf@yahoo.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:46897) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Uq3fb-0001Uh-9p for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 11:54:40 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Uq3fZ-0006bF-Ud for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 11:54:39 -0400 Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:33363) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Uq3fZ-0006ay-NU for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 11:54:37 -0400 Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Uq3fW-0007rG-HC for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 17:54:34 +0200 Received: from pd9eb3bb7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([217.235.59.183]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 17:54:34 +0200 Received: from Stromeko by pd9eb3bb7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 17:54:34 +0200 List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Nicolas Richard writes: > IIUC, when nothing bad happens, org has autoloads installed in emacs > which will load org as soon as needed. So you are right, (require 'org) > is unneeded. This relies heavily on luck with both the original and the new version of Org. You should at least do a `(require org-install)ยด (but not when you are trying to use the Org version that comes with Emacs). > In rare cases, though (such as major update of org not yet reflected in > emacs), I guess it might be required to load the right set of autoloads, > i.e. say (load "org-loaddefs"). I'm have no idea why org-install got > removed, because I think it used to serve the same purpose. Maybe I > simply don't understand correctly. FWIW, I carry a local patch that re-introduces org-install for this very reason. Regards, Achim. -- +<[Q+ Matrix-12 WAVE#46+305 Neuron microQkb Andromeda XTk Blofeld]>+ SD adaptation for Waldorf rackAttack V1.04R1: http://Synth.Stromeko.net/Downloads.html#WaldorfSDada