From: stardiviner <numbchild@gmail.com>
To: Tim Cross <theophilusx@gmail.com>
Cc: org-mode <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: ob-clojure should not tangle with inserting (ns ..) line when no :ns specified.
Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2018 14:25:00 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87woorm8jn.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87a7lq1cn1.fsf@gmail.com>
Tim Cross <theophilusx@gmail.com> writes:
> I think the problem here is that really, project.clj is not a valid
> clojure source file. It is really a clojure data file or clojure
> snippet (I mean in the sense that you cannot execute it or include it as
> a dependency within a clojure program - it is input data for the lein
> build tool). If lein was being developed from scratch today, rather than
> project.clj, you would probably have project.edn.
Actually a few months ago, Sean on Slack clojurians helped me out for
using clj and deps.edn. Just because of habit inertia. I'm still using
Leiningen. As you said, the Clojure community is moving to clj/clojure +
deps.edn. I decide to following the trend. Start to use it now.
>
> The question is, should we allow setting ns to nil/"", preventing
> inclusion of a ns line, which would make 'real' clojure source files
> invalid just to support this edge case or should we consider an
> alternative solution e.g.
>
> - have a 'lein-project' source type which could perhaps provide
> additional support for editing project.clj files (as I suspect lein is
> on the way out - replaced with things like clj or boot)
> - try using edn-mode and having support for edn as a valid language
> type. I've never used edn mode and I'm not 100% certain project.clj
> and edn are completely compatible.
>
> It seems to me that the preferred build tool is likely to become clj or
> derivatives of clj. I've noticed increasingly longer delays in new lein
> releases (the 'reflection' warning has been there for nearly 12 months
> now, as has the incorrect classpath warning on some platforms).
>
> In the long-term, I think org would probably benefit from integration
> with clj rather than cider for ob-clojure as it is likely to be more
> stable and less complex. Using cider has always felt like pushing a
> square peg into a round hole to me.
I remember we have a short discussion about ob-clojure use clj instead
of CIDER before. I totally agree on this. Seems already has an Emacs
package named "inf-clojure". I added this "integrate inf-clojure to
ob-clojure" as my task. But not sure when to check it out. I have many
tasks on my list. I have an idea, would you create an GitHub repo for
this? I would like to contribute on it.
As I said previous, if I use "deps.edn", use `edn-mode' would solve this
problem. But there is no `edn-mode'. I checked out MELPA, only has
package named "edn" which is used to Support for reading and writing the
edn data format from elisp. I also did a search on GitHub. No luck.
Anyway, I'm going to switch to clj + deps.edn
And Thanks, @Tim.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-12-03 6:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-11-30 8:46 ob-clojure should not tangle with inserting (ns ..) line when no :ns specified stardiviner
2018-11-30 21:25 ` Tim Cross
2018-12-03 6:25 ` stardiviner [this message]
2018-12-04 21:22 ` Tim Cross
2018-12-05 9:04 ` stardiviner
2019-01-10 1:47 ` stardiviner
2019-01-14 5:52 ` stardiviner
2019-01-21 0:39 ` [PATCH] " stardiviner
2019-01-21 20:19 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2019-01-22 7:57 ` stardiviner
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