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* Bug: Link given to gnuplot-mode is out of date [9.1.9 (release_9.1.9-65-g5e4542 @ /nix/store/x7b40y4pxp69h343akhaj4fb9fspacdq-emacs-26.1.50/share/emacs/26.1.50/lisp/org/)]
@ 2018-11-20 19:40 Gemini Lasswell
  2018-11-24  8:37 ` Colin Baxter
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Gemini Lasswell @ 2018-11-20 19:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode

In the "Requirements" section of ob-gnuplot.el's header comment, the
link given for gnuplot-mode no longer works.  The same broken link is
also present in org-manual.org.

Since gnuplot-mode is available on MELPA, I think the most helpful
advice for people trying to set up org-babel-gnuplot would be to install
it from there.

Emacs  : GNU Emacs 26.1.50 (build 1, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.22.30)
 of 2018-10-11
Package: Org mode version 9.1.9 (release_9.1.9-65-g5e4542 @ /nix/store/x7b40y4pxp69h343akhaj4fb9fspacdq-emacs-26.1.50/share/emacs/26.1.50/lisp/org/)

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* Re: Bug: Link given to gnuplot-mode is out of date [9.1.9 (release_9.1.9-65-g5e4542 @ /nix/store/x7b40y4pxp69h343akhaj4fb9fspacdq-emacs-26.1.50/share/emacs/26.1.50/lisp/org/)]
  2018-11-20 19:40 Bug: Link given to gnuplot-mode is out of date [9.1.9 (release_9.1.9-65-g5e4542 @ /nix/store/x7b40y4pxp69h343akhaj4fb9fspacdq-emacs-26.1.50/share/emacs/26.1.50/lisp/org/)] Gemini Lasswell
@ 2018-11-24  8:37 ` Colin Baxter
  2018-11-24 10:51   ` Nicolas Goaziou
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Colin Baxter @ 2018-11-24  8:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Gemini Lasswell; +Cc: emacs-orgmode

Hi,
>>>>> Gemini Lasswell <gazally@runbox.com> writes:

    > In the "Requirements" section of ob-gnuplot.el's header comment,
    > the link given for gnuplot-mode no longer works.  The same broken
    > link is also present in org-manual.org.

    > Since gnuplot-mode is available on MELPA, I think the most helpful
    > advice for people trying to set up org-babel-gnuplot would be to
    > install it from there.

    > Emacs : GNU Emacs 26.1.50 (build 1, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+
    > Version 3.22.30) of 2018-10-11 Package: Org mode version 9.1.9
    > (release_9.1.9-65-g5e4542 @
    > /nix/store/x7b40y4pxp69h343akhaj4fb9fspacdq-emacs-26.1.50/share/emacs/26.1.50/lisp/org/)

I recommend the gnuplot-mode from git:
http://github.com/bruceravel/gnuplot-mode/. I found the MELPA version
unsatisfactory in that it seemed to have missing functionality.

Best wishes,

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* Re: Bug: Link given to gnuplot-mode is out of date [9.1.9 (release_9.1.9-65-g5e4542 @ /nix/store/x7b40y4pxp69h343akhaj4fb9fspacdq-emacs-26.1.50/share/emacs/26.1.50/lisp/org/)]
  2018-11-24  8:37 ` Colin Baxter
@ 2018-11-24 10:51   ` Nicolas Goaziou
  2018-11-24 13:23     ` Colin Baxter
  2020-02-12 20:36     ` Bastien
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Nicolas Goaziou @ 2018-11-24 10:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Colin Baxter; +Cc: Bastien Guerry, Gemini Lasswell, emacs-orgmode

Hello,

Colin Baxter <m43cap@yandex.com> writes:

> Hi,
>>>>>> Gemini Lasswell <gazally@runbox.com> writes:
>
>     > In the "Requirements" section of ob-gnuplot.el's header comment,
>     > the link given for gnuplot-mode no longer works.  The same broken
>     > link is also present in org-manual.org.
>
>     > Since gnuplot-mode is available on MELPA, I think the most helpful
>     > advice for people trying to set up org-babel-gnuplot would be to
>     > install it from there.
>
>     > Emacs : GNU Emacs 26.1.50 (build 1, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+
>     > Version 3.22.30) of 2018-10-11 Package: Org mode version 9.1.9
>     > (release_9.1.9-65-g5e4542 @
>     > /nix/store/x7b40y4pxp69h343akhaj4fb9fspacdq-emacs-26.1.50/share/emacs/26.1.50/lisp/org/)
>
> I recommend the gnuplot-mode from git:
> http://github.com/bruceravel/gnuplot-mode/. I found the MELPA version
> unsatisfactory in that it seemed to have missing functionality.

This is complicated. The FSF frowns upon referencing Github in a GNU
manual, or even MELPA. More precisely, no feature in Emacs proper — Org
ships with it — should necessitate to direct user towards a non-free
platform. No feature should require a library that should be included in
Emacs either. See, for example bug#32722 or "Dependencies of Org" in
Emacs-devel ML.

At this point, I think the only way to stay in Emacs is to move
ob-gnuplot (and other similar libraries that require non-Emacs
libraries) in GNU ELPA or some such.

I'm Cc'ing Bastien for his opinion about it.

Regards,

-- 
Nicolas Goaziou

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* Re: Bug: Link given to gnuplot-mode is out of date [9.1.9 (release_9.1.9-65-g5e4542 @ /nix/store/x7b40y4pxp69h343akhaj4fb9fspacdq-emacs-26.1.50/share/emacs/26.1.50/lisp/org/)]
  2018-11-24 10:51   ` Nicolas Goaziou
@ 2018-11-24 13:23     ` Colin Baxter
  2020-02-12 20:36     ` Bastien
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Colin Baxter @ 2018-11-24 13:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Gemini Lasswell; +Cc: Bastien Guerry, emacs-orgmode

Dear Nicolas

>>>>> Nicolas Goaziou <mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr> writes:

    > Hello, Colin Baxter <m43cap@yandex.com> writes:

    >> Hi,
    >>>>>>> Gemini Lasswell <gazally@runbox.com> writes:
    >> 
    >> > In the "Requirements" section of ob-gnuplot.el's header
    >> comment, > the link given for gnuplot-mode no longer works.  The
    >> same broken > link is also present in org-manual.org.
    >> 
    >> > Since gnuplot-mode is available on MELPA, I think the most
    >> helpful > advice for people trying to set up org-babel-gnuplot
    >> would be to > install it from there.
    >> 
    >> > Emacs : GNU Emacs 26.1.50 (build 1, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ >
    >> Version 3.22.30) of 2018-10-11 Package: Org mode version 9.1.9 >
    >> (release_9.1.9-65-g5e4542 @ >
    >> /nix/store/x7b40y4pxp69h343akhaj4fb9fspacdq-emacs-26.1.50/share/emacs/26.1.50/lisp/org/)
    >> 
    >> I recommend the gnuplot-mode from git:
    >> http://github.com/bruceravel/gnuplot-mode/. I found the MELPA
    >> version unsatisfactory in that it seemed to have missing
    >> functionality.

    > This is complicated. The FSF frowns upon referencing Github in a
    > GNU manual, or even MELPA. More precisely, no feature in Emacs
    > proper — Org ships with it — should necessitate to direct user
    > towards a non-free platform. No feature should require a library
    > that should be included in Emacs either. See, for example
    > bug#32722 or "Dependencies of Org" in Emacs-devel ML.

I understand the FSF's position from reading about their issue with
html-ize. It's not my position - but that's a different matter.

    > At this point, I think the only way to stay in Emacs is to move
    > ob-gnuplot (and other similar libraries that require non-Emacs
    > libraries) in GNU ELPA or some such.

    > I'm Cc'ing Bastien for his opinion about it.

    > Regards,

    > -- Nicolas Goaziou


Best of luck.


Colin Baxter
m43cap@yandex.com

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* Re: Bug: Link given to gnuplot-mode is out of date [9.1.9 (release_9.1.9-65-g5e4542 @ /nix/store/x7b40y4pxp69h343akhaj4fb9fspacdq-emacs-26.1.50/share/emacs/26.1.50/lisp/org/)]
  2018-11-24 10:51   ` Nicolas Goaziou
  2018-11-24 13:23     ` Colin Baxter
@ 2020-02-12 20:36     ` Bastien
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Bastien @ 2020-02-12 20:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Nicolas Goaziou; +Cc: Colin Baxter, emacs-orgmode, Gemini Lasswell

Hi all,

Nicolas Goaziou <mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr> writes:

> At this point, I think the only way to stay in Emacs is to move
> ob-gnuplot (and other similar libraries that require non-Emacs
> libraries) in GNU ELPA or some such.
>
> I'm Cc'ing Bastien for his opinion about it.

I've simply removed the broken link from ob-gnuplot.el without
mentioning the (currently active) GitHub repository.

-- 
 Bastien

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