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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: "emacs-orgmode@gnu.org" Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Scanner: scn0 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=pobox.com header.s=sasl header.b=dYB7KwTA; dkim=pass header.d=kyleam.com header.s=mesmtp header.b=XHLt/m9O; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -0.21 X-TUID: +nRrON744L2z Gustav Wikstr=C3=B6m writes: > Hi, > > This may be a stupid question but I didn't find anything conclusive in > the manual or online after a (albeit fairly quick) scan. > > Is there currently a way to declare that property drawers (and the > file level property drawer in particular) should be hidden when > opening a new Org file, no matter the startup keyword setting? I.e is > it possible to control the open/closed state of the property drawer > separate from the outline folding? I may be missing something too, but I'm not aware of a way to do this that's distinct from setting org-startup-folded and friends. But doesn't org-startup-folded's showall/showeverything distinction cover your usecase?