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A while ago Nicolas forwarded me an email between him and Laszlo on this. H= ere are my thoughts at the time addresses to Laszlo (which haven=E2=80=99t chan= ged much since): Nicolas writes: > IIUC, merge is only viable if =E2=80=9Cox-slimhtml=E2=80=9D is a drop-in = replacement for > =E2=80=9Cox-html=E2=80=9D. Otherwise, users will miss out many features. = Of course, we > could ship two competing HTML export back-ends, but I don=E2=80=99t think= that=E2=80=99s > a good idea either. > > So, it is meant for inclusion in Org proper, or as a GNU ELPA package? > I don=E2=80=99t know. Maybe Timothy has a clearer view about it. I believe I see your motivation in creating ox-slimhtml, as the current ox-html includes much more than could be considered strictly necessary. However, like Nicolas I am hesitant to put this straight into Org along side ox-html. My personal view is that ideally ox-html would be equipped with the relevant knobs and levers (metaphorically speaking) such that one could obtain the same result as ox-slimhtml, the current result, or something in-between. I=E2=80=99ve felt for some time that ox-html could be= nefit from a bit more in-built flexibility without going down the path of hooks, filters, and advice. This would certainly be more effort, so I completely understand if this isn=E2=80=99t something you=E2=80=99d like to= undertake. In that case, I feel that this may be best suited as an ELPA package =E2=80= =94 closely in reach for those who are looking for a slimmer ox-html. All the best, Timothy --=-=-=--