From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp10.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms9.migadu.com with LMTPS id 4768M/kNR2TzKAAASxT56A (envelope-from ) for ; Tue, 25 Apr 2023 01:17:13 +0200 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp10.migadu.com with LMTPS id iD6yMfkNR2TcUQAAG6o9tA (envelope-from ) for ; Tue, 25 Apr 2023 01:17:13 +0200 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 31CF3B611 for ; Tue, 25 Apr 2023 01:17:13 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pr26n-0004Ho-O2; Mon, 24 Apr 2023 15:44:21 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pr26l-0004HE-Qt for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Apr 2023 15:44:19 -0400 Received: from mail.mojserwer.eu ([195.110.48.8]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pr26i-0005aF-JX for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Apr 2023 15:44:19 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.mojserwer.eu (Postfix) with ESMTP id E89298A5622; Mon, 24 Apr 2023 21:44:13 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mail.mojserwer.eu Received: from mail.mojserwer.eu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.mojserwer.eu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lU2PPZexA_vP; Mon, 24 Apr 2023 21:44:10 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (178235147064.dynamic-3-poz-k-0-1-0.vectranet.pl [178.235.147.64]) by mail.mojserwer.eu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 82BC48A5618; Mon, 24 Apr 2023 21:44:10 +0200 (CEST) References: <87h6to1ka7.fsf@mbork.pl> <87r0sa32hy.fsf@localhost> <874jp6beqj.fsf@mbork.pl> <87fs8q9zl0.fsf@localhost> <87354pc3ya.fsf@mbork.pl> <87edo9ztgj.fsf@localhost> User-agent: mu4e 1.1.0; emacs 30.0.50 From: Marcin Borkowski To: Ihor Radchenko Cc: Org-Mode mailing list Subject: Re: What is a week? 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1682378233; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=LgVMx3Brwr4ue3bl8rgAMco9fYhsFgr2z/hYuIAm0xGil6oiUAdS4t2egY5dBterZGX9L9 HvfwnlpDVsfClA6xtmm0vqSgOrkXi8cpf0ubCKUpaJv7ROoNO2EmEiRtvkW0n9LMoXrsXO mlkpmhsNueC66lk745quLpB1YKSreSGRvqCMVNLtHjVpOMJHjsbT6D1GhLxHhosu7Ww3AY PLv1ZvRRQIUEuHUrZbayFA9dY+ugWJKMlPUS3cT9lcju/Elwe+y9RLbiFtUJfRz3UVS5sw TSZ6GGBr8Gz3wjwIQk7k+Yg3CTP9VCyV4A930G+7fxKNtk+dlBq34GPYkck7Gw== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1682378233; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post; bh=0a4alYeRRtJWYBH0TgNlxg7fA6Vy/1XZPuUgp030UR4=; b=pSvL0NK14sCTZVztCrKL0nGA1hK7becQq4VczobxYTqx+rnbWgkRm7wTKsU2zSiKdMfvyD MuYbgl1kCOWXsJfd5zif72VpBArjhbKO5VeNJPbsvYj/92yhAg79//O/Oomvbk5ktvAFEk hOKtkKWgDk4zQjlg6YJ+c9XJoYCKsKpPF8rJymxU3zQvpGlmX0RSoyOT9hvDj7L5XlKJ9d G1StwJlMaGTDXZcy8XmJtv+HGh+sWUTOwFRIn3+1wNydXlAFhtuA44jgma/reGTLtCl832 99cwuGeQiC3RdyJddl3aIcuNvpP/bPv9NCCzLVUHCt/3LFQXGqXTe3k+6GZ/eg== X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -0.21 X-Spam-Score: -0.21 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 31CF3B611 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-TUID: TcP0cNSiG77T On 2023-04-24, at 08:26, Ihor Radchenko wrote: > Marcin Borkowski writes: > >>> Patches welcome! >> >> Would gladly do. Has the copyright papers requirement been lifted? > > Of course not, but don't you already have copyright assignment done? > Our records list you as someone with copyright: > https://orgmode.org/worg/contributors.html Complicated. I did my copyright assignment (for Emacs and AUCTeX, but I guess this doesn't matter, since Org mode is part of Emacs anyway) back when I worked in academia as a mathematician. Now I am a professional programmer, so I stopped contributing to Emacs - I suspect I would need to sign a different form. Also, my employer probably should do the same. And I assume that FSF might want to look at my contract, which is in Polish, so someone would have to pay for the translation, too. Quite a lot of hurdles for relatively little gain. And don't even mention what I think about that requirement in particular, and in general about copyright law, American law and American copyright law... I certainly don't want to sound like a jerk, but I think I do not owe anything to Emacs. While Emacs is an important part of my life - and it does make my life significantly better - I do my best to give back to the Emacs community. I wrote 300+ Emacs-related posts on my blog, more are in the pipeline, I wrote an Elisp textbook (not free, but that is intentional - I do not consider GPL nor the "free as in freedom" approach to be necessarily a good idea for a textbook), I encourage people to use Emacs (sometimes successfully). To be clear - I completely understand the "patches welcome" attitude to people complaining that something doesn't work as they expect - especially if those people are knowledgeable enough to fix the issue themselves. I would very probably have done that several weeks ago if not for the copyright papers requirement. If you think this is a good idea, I may spend some time preparing a detailed bug report, but please don't count on me submitting patches. Best, -- Marcin Borkowski http://mbork.pl