From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: "David O'Toole" Subject: hypermedia programming with babel Date: Sun, 4 Jul 2010 16:37:05 -0400 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0132414126==" Return-path: Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=48706 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OVVw8-0003YD-UH for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 04 Jul 2010 16:37:15 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OVVw2-0008Ta-Ok for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 04 Jul 2010 16:37:07 -0400 Received: from mail-ww0-f41.google.com ([74.125.82.41]:35796) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OVVw2-0008TN-Hd for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 04 Jul 2010 16:37:06 -0400 Received: by wwb17 with SMTP id 17so710053wwb.0 for ; Sun, 04 Jul 2010 13:37:05 -0700 (PDT) List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: emacs-orgmode Mailinglist --===============0132414126== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016365ee0687ed03e048a95c88b --0016365ee0687ed03e048a95c88b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Since discovering org babel, I've been doing a lot of reading and brainstorming, and have collected some thoughts/code/plans in several places: 1. http://github.com/dto/org-babel-lisp Some very basic compatibility. I'm not experienced enough with either babel or slime, perhaps someone can help me flesh this code out. I have papers on file with FSF, please feel free to take org-babel-lisp.el and do whatever you want. 2. http://github.com/dto/hypo My thoughts and some code toward a reproducible-results sort of digital asset management system, with relevance to games. Github's formatter messes it up. To read the raw file, use this link: http://github.com/dto/hypo/raw/master/hypo.org I've made TODO items for the icons discussion. I want to be able to define/contribute my own competing theme. How can I help next? --0016365ee0687ed03e048a95c88b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Since discovering org babel, I've been doing a lot of reading and brain= storming, and have collected some thoughts/code/plans in several places:

Some very basic compatibility. I'm not experienced = enough with either babel or slime, perhaps someone can help me flesh this c= ode out. I have papers on file with FSF, please feel free to take org-babel= -lisp.el and do whatever you want.


My thoughts and some code tow= ard a reproducible-results sort of digital asset management system, with re= levance to games.
Github's formatter messes it up. To read the raw file, use this li= nk: http://githu= b.com/dto/hypo/raw/master/hypo.org

I've ma= de TODO items for the icons discussion. I want to be able to define/contrib= ute my own competing theme. How can I help next?
--0016365ee0687ed03e048a95c88b-- --===============0132414126== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode --===============0132414126==-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: "Eric Schulte" Subject: Re: hypermedia programming with babel Date: Mon, 05 Jul 2010 13:15:15 -0700 Message-ID: <87630ty9bg.fsf@gmail.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Return-path: Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=59275 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OVs4X-0004ID-6j for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Jul 2010 16:15:22 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OVs4V-0006jJ-Gx for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Jul 2010 16:15:21 -0400 Received: from mail-pv0-f169.google.com ([74.125.83.169]:59392) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OVs4V-0006jF-AQ for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Jul 2010 16:15:19 -0400 Received: by pva4 with SMTP id 4so1690464pva.0 for ; Mon, 05 Jul 2010 13:15:18 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: (David O'Toole's message of "Sun, 4 Jul 2010 16:37:05 -0400") List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: David O'Toole Cc: emacs-orgmode Mailinglist Hi David, "David O'Toole" writes: > Since discovering org babel, I've been doing a lot of reading and > brainstorming, and have collected some thoughts/code/plans in several > places: > > 1. http://github.com/dto/org-babel-lisp > > Some very basic compatibility. I'm not experienced enough with either > babel or slime, perhaps someone can help me flesh this code out. I > have papers on file with FSF, please feel free to take > org-babel-lisp.el and do whatever you want. > This looks like a good start, you could look to ob-clojure.el for an example of a slime-driven lisp Babel file. http://repo.or.cz/w/org-mode.git/blob_plain/HEAD:/lisp/ob-clojure.el > > 2. http://github.com/dto/hypo > > My thoughts and some code toward a reproducible-results sort of digital > asset management system, with relevance to games. > Github's formatter messes it up. To read the raw file, use this link: > http://github.com/dto/hypo/raw/master/hypo.org > > I've made TODO items for the icons discussion. I want to be able to > define/contribute my own competing theme. That looks like a great application for literate programming. It might be nice to link to this project from the Babel uses page at http://orgmode.org/worg/org-contrib/babel/uses.php > How can I help next? Babel in general is in need of some language-specific introductory tutorials, with the goal of laying out the basic usage plenty of examples covering simple use case e.g. - author a shell script which can be tangled out to an executable - simple processing of data in tables, or execution of code blocks with the output captured in the buffer There is also plenty of room for help with documentation, testing, etc... Thanks! -- Eric From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: "David O'Toole" Subject: Re: hypermedia programming with babel Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2010 17:01:53 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87630ty9bg.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1494674369==" Return-path: Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=51907 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OVsnd-0005rl-97 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Jul 2010 17:01:58 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OVsnb-0004dM-Hm for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Jul 2010 17:01:57 -0400 Received: from mail-pz0-f41.google.com ([209.85.210.41]:41557) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OVsnb-0004d6-7f for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Jul 2010 17:01:55 -0400 Received: by pzk33 with SMTP id 33so2337946pzk.0 for ; Mon, 05 Jul 2010 14:01:53 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87630ty9bg.fsf@gmail.com> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Eric Schulte Cc: emacs-orgmode Mailinglist --===============1494674369== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd23d3808c929048aaa3f4f --000e0cd23d3808c929048aaa3f4f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi Eric, Thanks for the additional info. I'll keep you informed on my progress---I'll be presenting my "paper" for the Lisp Games Expo (see http://dto.github.com/notebook/2010expo.html About linking from the Uses section on the babel page... Should I make a page for the program, or can you just link to my current repo? Either way, it's not quite ready for being on the webpage :) but I see it as a discussion topic here. Do others have thoughts or experiences with multimedia and babel or org? On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 4:15 PM, Eric Schulte wrote: > Hi David, > > "David O'Toole" writes: > > > Since discovering org babel, I've been doing a lot of reading and > > brainstorming, and have collected some thoughts/code/plans in several > > places: > > > > 1. http://github.com/dto/org-babel-lisp > > > > Some very basic compatibility. I'm not experienced enough with either > > babel or slime, perhaps someone can help me flesh this code out. I > > have papers on file with FSF, please feel free to take > > org-babel-lisp.el and do whatever you want. > > > > This looks like a good start, you could look to ob-clojure.el for an > example of a slime-driven lisp Babel file. > http://repo.or.cz/w/org-mode.git/blob_plain/HEAD:/lisp/ob-clojure.el > > > > > 2. http://github.com/dto/hypo > > > > My thoughts and some code toward a reproducible-results sort of digital > > asset management system, with relevance to games. > > Github's formatter messes it up. To read the raw file, use this link: > > http://github.com/dto/hypo/raw/master/hypo.org > > > > I've made TODO items for the icons discussion. I want to be able to > > define/contribute my own competing theme. > > That looks like a great application for literate programming. It might > be nice to link to this project from the Babel uses page at > http://orgmode.org/worg/org-contrib/babel/uses.php > > > How can I help next? > > Babel in general is in need of some language-specific introductory > tutorials, with the goal of laying out the basic usage plenty of > examples covering simple use case e.g. > - author a shell script which can be tangled out to an executable > - simple processing of data in tables, or execution of code blocks with > the output captured in the buffer > > There is also plenty of room for help with documentation, testing, > etc... > > Thanks! -- Eric > --000e0cd23d3808c929048aaa3f4f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Eric,

Thanks for the additional info. I'll keep y= ou informed on my progress---I'll be presenting my "paper" fo= r the Lisp Games Expo (see http://dto.github.com/notebook/2010expo.html

About linking from the Uses section on the babel page... Should I = make a page for the program, or can you just link to my current repo? Eithe= r way, it's not quite ready for being on the webpage :) but I see it as= a discussion topic here.

Do others have thoughts or experiences with multimedia = and babel or org?

On Mon, Jul 5, 2= 010 at 4:15 PM, Eric Schulte <schulte.eric@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi David,

"David O'Toole" <dto1= 138@gmail.com> writes:

> Since discovering org babel, I've been doi= ng a lot of reading and
> brainstorming, and have collected some thoughts/code/plans in several<= br> > places:
>
> =A01. http://github.com/dto/org-babel-lisp
>
> Some very basic compatibility. I'm not experienced enough with eit= her
> babel or slime, perhaps someone can help me flesh this code out. I
> have papers on file with FSF, please feel free to take
> org-babel-lisp.el and do whatever you want.
>

This looks like a good start, you could look to ob-clojure.el for an<= br> example of a slime-driven lisp Babel file.
http://repo.or.cz/w/org-mode.git/blob_plain/HEAD:/l= isp/ob-clojure.el

>
> =A02. http://= github.com/dto/hypo
>
> My thoughts and some code toward a reproducible-results sort of digita= l
> asset management system, with relevance to games.
> Github's formatter messes it up. To read the raw file, use this li= nk:
> http://github.com/dto/hypo/raw/master/hypo.org
>
> I've made TODO items for the icons discussion. I want to be able t= o
> define/contribute my own competing theme.

That looks like a great application for literate programming. =A0It m= ight
be nice to link to this project from the Babel uses page at
http://orgmode.org/worg/org-contrib/babel/uses.php

> How can I help next?

Babel in general is in need of some language-specific introductory tutorials, with the goal of laying out the basic usage plenty of
examples covering simple use case e.g.
- author a shell script which can be tangled out to an executable
- simple processing of data in tables, or execution of code blocks with
=A0the output captured in the buffer

There is also plenty of room for help with documentation, testing,
etc...

Thanks! -- Eric

--000e0cd23d3808c929048aaa3f4f-- --===============1494674369== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode --===============1494674369==-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Erik Iverson Subject: Re: hypermedia programming with babel Date: Mon, 05 Jul 2010 16:10:53 -0500 Message-ID: <4C324A5D.9030401@ccbr.umn.edu> References: <87630ty9bg.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=57269 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OVsv6-0007HA-Ml for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Jul 2010 17:09:41 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OVsv5-0005UN-FO for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Jul 2010 17:09:40 -0400 Received: from pegasus.biostat.wisc.edu ([144.92.73.35]:58965) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OVsv5-0005UC-Ay for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Jul 2010 17:09:39 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87630ty9bg.fsf@gmail.com> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Eric Schulte Cc: emacs-orgmode Mailinglist > >> How can I help next? > > Babel in general is in need of some language-specific introductory > tutorials, with the goal of laying out the basic usage plenty of > examples covering simple use case e.g. > - author a shell script which can be tangled out to an executable > - simple processing of data in tables, or execution of code blocks with > the output captured in the buffer What format do you have in mind for these? I'd be glad to work on R examples. From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: "Eric Schulte" Subject: Re: hypermedia programming with babel Date: Mon, 05 Jul 2010 16:08:07 -0700 Message-ID: <87vd8tle7c.fsf@gmail.com> References: <87630ty9bg.fsf@gmail.com> <4C324A5D.9030401@ccbr.umn.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Return-path: Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=56505 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OVulp-0002Kb-CI for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Jul 2010 19:08:14 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OVuln-0007I0-Ue for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Jul 2010 19:08:13 -0400 Received: from mail-pz0-f41.google.com ([209.85.210.41]:53531) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OVuln-0007Hu-MG for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Jul 2010 19:08:11 -0400 Received: by pzk33 with SMTP id 33so2370890pzk.0 for ; Mon, 05 Jul 2010 16:08:10 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4C324A5D.9030401@ccbr.umn.edu> (Erik Iverson's message of "Mon, 05 Jul 2010 16:10:53 -0500") List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Erik Iverson Cc: emacs-orgmode Mailinglist Erik Iverson writes: >> >>> How can I help next? >> >> Babel in general is in need of some language-specific introductory >> tutorials, with the goal of laying out the basic usage plenty of >> examples covering simple use case e.g. >> - author a shell script which can be tangled out to an executable >> - simple processing of data in tables, or execution of code blocks with >> the output captured in the buffer > > What format do you have in mind for these? I'd be glad to work on R examples. I was thinking these would take the form of .org files with the explanatory text and the actual source code, we could then export them to HTML and post that up on Worg, and we could also share the raw .org files from Worg. R examples would be great. I think the most important languages to do up front (i.e. those languages with the most potential users) would be R, python, shell, emacs-lisp, and ruby (although my guesses at popularity could be wrong). Thanks! -- Eric