From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Steven Arntson Subject: Re: LaTex export questions Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 23:07:09 -0700 Message-ID: <87vbsqtp0y.fsf@stevenarntson.com> References: <87mwe3uhmt.fsf@stevenarntson.com> <871tve7wmj.fsf@gmail.com> <87mwe2c30n.fsf@alphaville.bos.redhat.com> <87d2eyvb3a.fsf@stevenarntson.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:37891) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WpX1L-0007GV-Te for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 28 May 2014 02:07:32 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WpX1H-0002Qi-1d for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 28 May 2014 02:07:27 -0400 Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:59606) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WpX1G-0002Qc-OP for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 28 May 2014 02:07:22 -0400 Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WpX1F-0002fh-1i for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 28 May 2014 08:07:21 +0200 Received: from 97-113-56-186.tukw.qwest.net ([97.113.56.186]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 28 May 2014 08:07:21 +0200 Received: from steven by 97-113-56-186.tukw.qwest.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 28 May 2014 08:07:21 +0200 List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Hi Alan, I downloaded the book and went through it--thank you for putting that together! It was a valuable overview. Nonetheless, some confusions persist for me since I'm using emacs org-mode and not LyX. Should I be putting LaTeX markup into my org-mode doc, for instance, for formatting the title page, &c? Also, right now when I do the "org to latex to pdf" export, I'm given a table of contents, and I don't want one. I'm still perplexed about where defaults like that are kept. Sometimes I worry that my ignorance is invulnerable. Thanks again! -Steven Alan Tyree writes: > Hi Steven, > You want to learn more about LaTeX, but it's not too much. > > I wrote a little book called Self-publishing with LyX that will help > you set up the title page as well as some of your other problems. This > is not a sales pitch -- it's free :-). > > Self-publishing with LyX > ISBN: 978-0-9803-3242-1 > http://www.lulu.com/content/1085870 > > Cheers, > Alan > > On 28 May 2014 13:25, Steven Arntson wrote: > > > Nick Dokos writes: > > > Igor Sosa Mayor writes: > > > >> Steven Arntson writes: > >> > >>> Hi, I'm trying to export an org-mode doc to LaTex and > subsequently to > >>> PDF. This is a literary novel, written in prose. Right now > when I run > >>> the export command, the resulting file is incorrectly > formatted for the > >>> literary world, and I'm not sure how to change it. Is there a > dialog or > >>> "customize" menu that allows users to eliminate some default > settings, > >>> and add others? > >> > >> Maybe you can configure it with > >> M-x customize-group org > >> > >> But I think a look at the manual is pretty useful and you can > configure > >> it in your .emacs without very much complication: > >> > >> http://orgmode.org/manual/Export-settings.html#Export-settings > >> > http://orgmode.org/manual/LaTeX-and-PDF-export.html#LaTeX-and-PDF-export > > > > I may be barking up the wrong tree, but to me the problem seems > to be > > not so much what org does, but what latex does. If that is so, > then > > perhaps what is needed is a latex style file that formats prose > > "correctly for the literary world". That may be a non-trivial > > undertaking (but maybe not: typographical demands for a novel > are > > trivial compared to say mathematics). Integrating such a > hypothetical > > style file into org would be pretty easy. > > > > But perhaps the OP can clarify: what does "incorrectly formatted > for > > the literary world" mean? > > > > Nick > > > Full disclosure: I'm a beginning emacs user, and I know nothing > about > LaTex at all! > > I'm not producing a "book" per se, but a manuscript that will be > printed on 8.5 x 11 pages and read by my agent or a publisher. The > conventions are simple, but thus far I haven't been able to > understand > much of what I'm reading in the customize menu for org-mode. > > Until now I've done this formatting with MS Word or Libre Office. > I > dislike those programs, but I know how to use them. Simplest has > been to > take my raw org-mode txt files and convert them manually. It's a > tedious > last step before sending downstream, which I'd love to replace, > and I've > seen some beautiful LaTex examples online, so I know it's possible > ... > > Literary format redux: > + 12 point text > + Title page has title and author name, centered both horizontally > and > vertically. Contact info for agent is in the bottom left, single > spaced. > + Remaining pages are double-spaced > + Page numbers are centered at the bottom of the page (but no page > number > on title page) > + Each page has a right-justified header in the format > LASTNAME/TITLE > > That's it. I guess I'm wondering now--should I be learning more > about > org-mode, or more about LaTex? > > Thank you very much for taking the time to read all of this. > > -Steven