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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: Texas Cyberthal , "emacs-orgmode@gnu.org" , Jean Louis Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Scanner: ns3122888.ip-94-23-21.eu Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail (headers rsa verify failed) header.d=web.de header.s=dbaedf251592 header.b=hoStq7Ks; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed)" header.from=web.de (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Spam-Score: 2.99 X-TUID: r3qUECpCUan1 --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ihor Radchenko writes: >> Only philosophy I know is that it is plain text. Is there any official >> philosophy? I have no idea, at least manual does not give me >> references. I cannot find "philosophy", send me references. > > You are right. There is no official "philosophy" in org. In my reply I > tried to follow the topic starter's view: > > Texas Cyberthal : >> By philosophy, I mean the dev consensus on the correct way to do >> things, and coded configuration and usability biases. > > According to my experience with org-mode development (I am not talking > about third-party packages here), it is discouraged to change org-mode > towards hiding metadata in org files or store *unique* data (that cannot > be derived from the contents of the org files) related to org-mode > externally (not in org files). It is not official statement, but rather > my impression so far. As a user I do not want outside-data, because I put my org-files into versiontracking and access them from several machines. I also provide them as sources for books on sr.ht and use them to synchronize planning between the office-PC and the homeoffice-PC. And I send them to people so they have the complete source of something I built. All those use-cases I use regularly would break if org-mode started to rely on an external database. 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