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* Do not show a TODO item in the global TODO list until certain date?
@ 2022-09-14  9:28 Angel de Vicente
  2022-09-14  9:38 ` Rohit Patnaik
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Angel de Vicente @ 2022-09-14  9:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode

Hello,

I'm wondering if it is possible to have a TODO item, but to not show it
in the global TODO list until certain date?

For example: I need to get a new insurance for my motor bike, but
insurance companies will not give me a quote until October 16, so I
would like to create a TODO entry (not a scheduled one, since I don't
need to do it on a particular date), but to hide it from view until
October 16, since there is no point on trying to do it before that, and
it clutters my TODO list.

I checked the Org manual and didn't see anything obvious, but maybe
there is some way?

Thanks,
-- 
Ángel de Vicente
 Research Software Engineer (Supercomputing and BigData)
 Instituto de Astrofísica de Canarias (https://www.iac.es/en)



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* Re: Do not show a TODO item in the global TODO list until certain date?
  2022-09-14  9:28 Do not show a TODO item in the global TODO list until certain date? Angel de Vicente
@ 2022-09-14  9:38 ` Rohit Patnaik
  2022-09-14 10:44   ` Angel de Vicente
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Rohit Patnaik @ 2022-09-14  9:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Angel de Vicente; +Cc: emacs-orgmode

> (not a scheduled one, since I don't need to do it on a particular date)

The `SCHEDULED' property is in fact the correct way to indicate that you wish to
hide the task from the global to-do list until a particular date. `SCHEDULED'
indicates the day upon which you wish to start working on the task. If there's a
particular date by which the task has to be completed, the `DEADLINE' property
is appropriate.

The relevant org-mode manual page is:
https://orgmode.org/manual/Deadlines-and-Scheduling.html I believe.

-- Rohit


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* Re: Do not show a TODO item in the global TODO list until certain date?
  2022-09-14  9:38 ` Rohit Patnaik
@ 2022-09-14 10:44   ` Angel de Vicente
  2022-09-14 12:36     ` Ihor Radchenko
  2022-09-22 15:26     ` Bastien
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Angel de Vicente @ 2022-09-14 10:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode

Hello,

"Rohit Patnaik" <quanticle@quanticle.net> writes:

>> (not a scheduled one, since I don't need to do it on a particular date)
>
> The `SCHEDULED' property is in fact the correct way to indicate that you wish to
> hide the task from the global to-do list until a particular date. `SCHEDULED'
> indicates the day upon which you wish to start working on the task. If there's a
> particular date by which the task has to be completed, the `DEADLINE' property
> is appropriate.

Thanks for the pointer, but maybe I use SCHEDULED items a bit different,
since I want only a few items in my agenda view, only those that I
really intend to start working on the given date.

As per the example I was giving, I don't want that entry to be scheduled
for October 16 (and thus clutter my agenda view), I just want it to be
visible in my Global TODO list from that date, so then, depending on how
busy I'm around that date, then I can decide when to schedule it for.

I hope it makes sense (and there is some way to accomplish it).

Cheers,
-- 
Ángel de Vicente
 Research Software Engineer (Supercomputing and BigData)
 Instituto de Astrofísica de Canarias (https://www.iac.es/en)



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* Re: Do not show a TODO item in the global TODO list until certain date?
  2022-09-14 10:44   ` Angel de Vicente
@ 2022-09-14 12:36     ` Ihor Radchenko
  2022-09-15  5:37       ` Angel de Vicente
  2022-09-15 11:11       ` Angel de Vicente
  2022-09-22 15:26     ` Bastien
  1 sibling, 2 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Ihor Radchenko @ 2022-09-14 12:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Angel de Vicente; +Cc: emacs-orgmode

Angel de Vicente <angel.vicente.garrido@gmail.com> writes:

> As per the example I was giving, I don't want that entry to be scheduled
> for October 16 (and thus clutter my agenda view), I just want it to be
> visible in my Global TODO list from that date, so then, depending on how
> busy I'm around that date, then I can decide when to schedule it for.
>
> I hope it makes sense (and there is some way to accomplish it).

Check out org-agenda-skip-function (see A.7 Special Agenda Views section
of the manual).

Also, I am doing something similar in my personal config using
SHOWFROMDATE property. See
https://github.com/yantar92/emacs-config/blob/master/config.org#properties
for inspiration.

-- 
Ihor Radchenko,
Org mode contributor,
Learn more about Org mode at https://orgmode.org/.
Support Org development at https://liberapay.com/org-mode,
or support my work at https://liberapay.com/yantar92


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* Re: Do not show a TODO item in the global TODO list until certain date?
  2022-09-14 12:36     ` Ihor Radchenko
@ 2022-09-15  5:37       ` Angel de Vicente
  2022-09-15 11:11       ` Angel de Vicente
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Angel de Vicente @ 2022-09-15  5:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode

Hello,

Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@gmail.com> writes:

> Check out org-agenda-skip-function (see A.7 Special Agenda Views section
> of the manual).
>
> Also, I am doing something similar in my personal config using
> SHOWFROMDATE property. See
> https://github.com/yantar92/emacs-config/blob/master/config.org#properties
> for inspiration.

thanks for the pointers. I will check both alternatives and see which
one suits me best.
-- 
Ángel de Vicente
 Research Software Engineer (Supercomputing and BigData)
 Instituto de Astrofísica de Canarias (https://www.iac.es/en)



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* Re: Do not show a TODO item in the global TODO list until certain date?
  2022-09-14 12:36     ` Ihor Radchenko
  2022-09-15  5:37       ` Angel de Vicente
@ 2022-09-15 11:11       ` Angel de Vicente
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Angel de Vicente @ 2022-09-15 11:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode

Hello,

Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@gmail.com> writes:

> Also, I am doing something similar in my personal config using
> SHOWFROMDATE property. See
> https://github.com/yantar92/emacs-config/blob/master/config.org#properties
> for inspiration.

I tried the following but without success... my Emacs Lisp lack of
knowledge is showing here...

I copied your code from
https://github.com/yantar92/emacs-config/blob/master/config.org#properties
into my .emacs and eval-ed it.
,----
| (add-to-list 'org-default-properties "SHOWFROMDATE")
| (bind-key "C-c C-f" #'org-command-set-SHOWFROMDATE-property org-mode-map)
| (bind-key "C-c C-f" #'org-command-set-SHOWFROMDATE-property org-agenda-mode-map)
| (add-to-list 'org-agenda-bulk-custom-functions '(?F org-command-set-SHOWFROMDATE-property))
| 
| (defun org-command-set-SHOWFROMDATE-property (&optional arg)
|   "Command to set :SHOWFROMDATE property for the org entry at point.
| 	 If NOT-IN-AGENDA is not nil, do not check whether we are in agenda now."
|   (interactive "P")
|   (if (equal major-mode 'org-agenda-mode)
|       (progn
| 	(org-agenda-check-no-diary)
| 	(let* ((marker (or (org-get-at-bol 'org-marker)
| 			   (org-agenda-error)))
| 	       (buffer (marker-buffer marker))
| 	       (pos (marker-position marker))
| 	       (inhibit-read-only t)
| 	       ts)
| 	  (org-with-remote-undo buffer
| 	    (with-current-buffer buffer
| 	      (widen)
| 	      (goto-char pos)
| 	      ;; (org-fold-show-context 'agenda)
| 	      (funcall-interactively 'org-command-set-SHOWFROMDATE-property arg)
| 	      (setq ts (org-entry-get (point) "SHOWFROMDATE")))
| 	    (org-agenda-show-new-time marker ts " P"))))
|     (let ((property "SHOWFROMDATE"))
|       (if (equal arg '(4))
| 	  (org-entry-delete (point) property)
| 	(let ((value (org-read-property-value property))
| 	      (fn (cdr (assoc-string property org-properties-postprocess-alist t))))
| 	  (setq org-last-set-property property)
| 	  (setq org-last-set-property-value (concat property ": " value))
| 	  ;; Possibly postprocess the inserted value:
| 	  (when fn (setq value (funcall fn value)))
| 	  (unless (equal (org-entry-get nil property) value)
| 	    (org-entry-put nil property value)))))))
| 
| (defun org-set-SHOWFROMDATE-property (PROMPT &rest args)
|   "Read :SHOWFROMDATE: property."
|   (org-read-date nil nil nil PROMPT))
| 
| (add-to-list 'org-property-set-functions-alist '("SHOWFROMDATE" . org-set-SHOWFROMDATE-property))
| 
| (defun org-agenda-skip-before-SHOWFROMDATE-property ()
|   "Skip agenda item if :SHOWFROMDATE: property is set and the day is before it"
|   (when-let* ((showfromdate (if (bound-and-true-p org-ql--current-element)
|                                 (org-element-property :SHOWFROMDATE (org-element-lineage org-ql--current-element '(headline) t))
|                               (org-entry-get (point) "SHOWFROMDATE")))
|               (showfromdate (unless (seq-empty-p showfromdate) (ts-parse-org showfromdate)))
| 	      (currenttime (ts-now)))
|     (ts< currenttime showfromdate)))
`----


Then, I defined a test custom command:
,----
| (setq org-agenda-custom-commands
|       '(("h" "Agenda and tasks"
| 	 ((agenda "" ((org-agenda-skip-function 'org-agenda-skip-before-SHOWFROMDATE-property)))
|           (alltodo "" ((org-agenda-skip-function 'org-agenda-skip-before-SHOWFROMDATE-property)))))))
`----

together with a test TODO item:

,----
| ** TODO test                                                       :personal:
| 
|    :PROPERTIES:
|    :SHOWFROMDATE: 2022-10-16
|    :END:
`----

But the "test" still shows in the TODO list. Am I missing something
basic here?

Thanks for your help. Cheers,
-- 
Ángel de Vicente
 Research Software Engineer (Supercomputing and BigData)
 Instituto de Astrofísica de Canarias (https://www.iac.es/en)



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* Re: Do not show a TODO item in the global TODO list until certain date?
  2022-09-14 10:44   ` Angel de Vicente
  2022-09-14 12:36     ` Ihor Radchenko
@ 2022-09-22 15:26     ` Bastien
  2022-09-22 16:58       ` Angel de Vicente
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Bastien @ 2022-09-22 15:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Angel de Vicente; +Cc: emacs-orgmode

Hi Angel,

Angel de Vicente <angel.vicente.garrido@gmail.com> writes:

> As per the example I was giving, I don't want that entry to be scheduled
> for October 16 (and thus clutter my agenda view), I just want it to be
> visible in my Global TODO list from that date, so then, depending on how
> busy I'm around that date, then I can decide when to schedule it for.

Another option is to define an agenda view that only shows TODO items
for today, with `org-agenda-span' set to 1 --- something like this:

(setq org-agenda-custom-commands
  '(("A" "Today's tasks" agenda "Tasks for today"
    ((org-agenda-span 1)
     (org-agenda-files '("~/org/bzg.org"))
     (org-deadline-warning-days 0)
     (org-agenda-sorting-strategy
       '(deadline-up todo-state-up priority-down))))))

HTH,

-- 
 Bastien


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* Re: Do not show a TODO item in the global TODO list until certain date?
  2022-09-22 15:26     ` Bastien
@ 2022-09-22 16:58       ` Angel de Vicente
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Angel de Vicente @ 2022-09-22 16:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Bastien; +Cc: emacs-orgmode

Hello,

Bastien <bzg@gnu.org> writes:

>> As per the example I was giving, I don't want that entry to be scheduled
>> for October 16 (and thus clutter my agenda view), I just want it to be
>> visible in my Global TODO list from that date, so then, depending on how
>> busy I'm around that date, then I can decide when to schedule it for.
>
> Another option is to define an agenda view that only shows TODO items
> for today, with `org-agenda-span' set to 1 --- something like this:

thanks. I tried, but that doesn't seem to be what I was looking for (or
perhaps I missed something). In my case I have many TODO items without a
date, and I don't want to assign a specific date to them. I simply want
that they are hidden from the Global TODO list until a specific date.

[I can assign a date to them, but then it will look like I have to do
them on that date. Ideally I would like them to be without a date, so
they don't show up in the agenda, only in the global TODO list, but have
a field =skip_until= or similar, so they will be hidden until then]

Thanks,
-- 
Ángel de Vicente
 Research Software Engineer (Supercomputing and BigData)
 Tel.: +34 922-605-747
 Web.: http://research.iac.es/proyecto/polmag/
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