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From: Dan Davison <davison@stats.ox.ac.uk>
To: "Thomas S. Dye" <tsd@tsdye.com>
Cc: emacs-orgmode Mailinglist <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Org now fontifies code blocks
Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2010 18:35:38 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87tylylf45.fsf@stats.ox.ac.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <72D49F8C-CEE4-4EFE-9208-5589B10DE8BD@tsdye.com> (Thomas S. Dye's message of "Thu, 9 Sep 2010 11:40:43 -1000")

"Thomas S. Dye" <tsd@tsdye.com> writes:

> Hi Dan,
>
> Glad to know that Darlan's slowdown is fixed.
>
> No change here that I can tell.  Now that I've had org-src-fontify-
> natively set to t for a while, I can see that the slowdown is
> proportional to the number and size of code blocks in the Org-mode
> file.  It is most noticeable in a file with about 30 printed pages of
> a manuscript held in several dozen LaTeX code blocks, quite a bit less
> so in a file where the several dozen code blocks are short R routines.
>
> FWIW, I see the org-src-fontification message while unfolding,

Hi Tom,

Could you post that message please (go to *Messages* buffer after
unfolding and it should be there). I haven't put any messages in, but I
think I know the message you mean and I think it is an Emacs message.

Dan

> even
> when the unfolded result doesn't show a code block.  Later when a sub- 
> tree is unfolded, the org-src-fontification message appears again,
> which makes me wonder if there is unnecessary work going on.
>
> All the best,
> Tom
>
> On Sep 9, 2010, at 3:02 AM, Darlan Cavalcante Moreira wrote:
>
>>
>> Thank you Dan,
>>
>> It is perfect now. No perceivable slowdown
>>
>> At Wed, 08 Sep 2010 13:41:51 -0400,
>> Dan Davison wrote:
>>>
>>> Darlan Cavalcante Moreira <darcamo@gmail.com> writes:
>>>
>>>> Maybe my problem is not related to slow folding/unfolding behavior
>>>> that you
>>>> are getting, but if I set the org-src-tab-acts-natively variable
>>>> to t the
>>>> folding/unfolding of headlines becomes very slow for me.
>>>
>>> Thank you Darlan,
>>>
>>> I have just pushed a change that should make that better -- does that
>>> improve things?
>>>
>>> I did think there was something else going on (that was why I asked
>>> Tom
>>> for confirmation), but I didn't have time to investigate
>>> properly. The
>>> problem seems to be that, on a folded headline containing many
>>> blocks,
>>> `org-edit-src-find-region-and-lang' is actually quite slow to come up
>>> with the answer "No, there's nothing for me to edit here."  (try
>>> issuing
>>> M-x org-edit-src-code on a folded headline containing many blocks; I
>>> haven't understood this properly yet.)
>>>
>>> Dan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> In fact, I was thinking that I had the problem described here, but
>>>> I just
>>>> isolated the cause and in my case it was the org-src-tab-acts-
>>>> natively
>>>> variable that I had set to t in my .emacs file.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Darlan
>>>>
>>>> At Tue, 7 Sep 2010 06:05:54 -1000,
>>>> "Thomas S. Dye" <tsd@tsdye.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Dan,
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, I can confirm that (setq org-src-fontify-natively nil) makes
>>>>> unfolding snappy again.
>>>>>
>>>>> All the best,
>>>>> Tom
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sep 7, 2010, at 3:23 AM, Dan Davison wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> "Thomas S. Dye" <tsd@tsdye.com> writes:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Aloha Dan,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is really nice.  Thanks for shepherding it along.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In some of my use cases there is a substantial delay when
>>>>>>> opening a
>>>>>>> large file and then unfolding sections with many source code
>>>>>>> blocks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Tom,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think this is a good point and probably as you say a reason for
>>>>>> turning it off by default. Org should be (and was!) lightweight by
>>>>>> default.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I haven't had time to profile things properly. Before we turn it
>>>>>> off,
>>>>>> could you please confirm that all your slowness problems go away
>>>>>> when
>>>>>> you do (setq org-src-fontify-natively nil)?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dan
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't mind this and intend to keep the feature on, but I do
>>>>>>> think
>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>> should be off by default because the user potentially pays an
>>>>>>> appreciable time penalty for the pleasure of semantic source code
>>>>>>> markup.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks again for this nice feature.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> All the best,
>>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sep 3, 2010, at 7:30 AM, Eric S Fraga wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, 02 Sep 2010 08:51:16 -0700, Dan Davison
>>>>>>>> <davison@stats.ox.ac.uk
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I've just pushed changes which mean that Org now fontifies
>>>>>>>>> code in
>>>>>>>>> code
>>>>>>>>> blocks. Currently, this is turned on by default, so it would be
>>>>>>>>> helpful
>>>>>>>>> if people could report any problems, and opinions as to
>>>>>>>>> whether it
>>>>>>>>> should be on or off by default.<
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> [...]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This is brilliant!  Works very well on my notebook (with small
>>>>>>>> code
>>>>>>>> blocks as that's all I tend to have).  Many thanks!
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Eric S Fraga
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  reply	other threads:[~2010-09-09 22:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-08-03 23:12 [PATCH] Mode-specific fontification of babel source blocks David O'Toole
2010-08-03 23:14 ` David O'Toole
2010-08-03 23:23   ` Erik Iverson
2010-08-04  2:55 ` Dan Davison
2010-08-04  5:55   ` David O'Toole
2010-08-09 21:35   ` Dan Davison
2010-09-02 15:51     ` Org now fontifies code blocks Dan Davison
2010-09-02 17:04       ` Erik Iverson
2010-09-02 19:06         ` Native TAB in code blocks [WAS Re: Org now fontifies code blocks] Dan Davison
2010-09-02 19:18           ` Carsten Dominik
2010-09-02 20:36             ` Native TAB in code blocks Dan Davison
2010-09-03  8:11               ` Julien Fantin
2010-09-02 20:26       ` Org now fontifies " Sébastien Vauban
2010-09-03 17:30       ` Eric S Fraga
2010-09-03 19:10         ` Thomas S. Dye
2010-09-06 16:49           ` David O'Toole
2010-09-07 13:23           ` Dan Davison
2010-09-07 13:55             ` Richard Riley
2010-09-07 16:05             ` Thomas S. Dye
2010-09-08 16:36               ` Darlan Cavalcante Moreira
2010-09-08 17:41                 ` Dan Davison
2010-09-09 13:02                   ` Darlan Cavalcante Moreira
2010-09-09 21:40                     ` Thomas S. Dye
2010-09-09 22:35                       ` Dan Davison [this message]
2010-09-09 23:03                         ` Thomas S. Dye
2010-10-28 11:10                           ` Dan Davison
2010-10-28 12:08                             ` Jules Bean
2010-10-28 12:47                               ` Jambunathan K
2010-10-28 13:35                                 ` Dan Davison
2010-10-28 16:24                             ` Thomas S. Dye
2010-09-06 16:59         ` Richard Riley
2010-09-06 17:53           ` David O'Toole
2010-09-06 18:30             ` Bastien
2010-09-06 18:52               ` David O'Toole
2010-09-06 18:59                 ` Richard Riley
2010-09-07 13:43                 ` Dan Davison
2010-09-07 14:22                   ` Carsten Dominik
2010-09-07 14:33                     ` Bastien
2010-09-07 14:37                       ` Carsten Dominik
2010-09-07 14:41                       ` Sebastian Rose
2010-09-07 16:20                         ` Dan Davison
2010-09-07 15:03                       ` Sébastien Vauban
2010-09-07 16:54                     ` Dan Davison
2010-09-08 16:30                       ` Bastien
2010-09-08 18:35                         ` Sébastien Vauban
2010-09-08 18:42                           ` Erik Iverson
2010-09-08 19:17                             ` Dan Davison
2010-09-07 14:24                   ` Bastien
2010-09-07 14:33                   ` Tom Short
2010-09-07 14:47                     ` Richard Riley
2010-09-06 17:59           ` Erik Iverson
2010-09-06 18:23           ` Dan Davison
2010-09-06 18:49             ` Richard Riley
2010-09-07 13:33               ` Dan Davison
2010-09-07  7:24           ` Sébastien Vauban
2010-08-15  6:33 ` [PATCH] Mode-specific fontification of babel source blocks Dan Davison

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