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From: Aaron Ecay <aaronecay@gmail.com>
To: Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com>
Cc: "W. Greenhouse" <wgreenhouse@riseup.net>, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [Out-of-Thread] Re: [RFC] Org syntax (draft)
Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 23:47:56 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87txo8vymr.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <B72CDC2B-72F6-43A8-AC70-E6E6295766EC@gmail.com> (Carsten Dominik's message of "Mon, 18 Mar 2013 20:19:42 +0100")

Hi Carsten,

Thank you for your very insightful thoughts.  I would like to make one note.

2013ko martxoak 18an, Carsten Dominik-ek idatzi zuen:

> Now to the discussion with Z about additional emphasis definitions
> which he/she uses for custom highlighting of stuff.  Right now this
> relies on modifying the emph-alist variable.  However, for the purpose
> of in-buffer only highlighting, it is not necessary to go through
> parser-sensitive code.  You can do this simply with additions to
> font-lock, for example using font-lock-add-keywords or something like
> this, see also Thorsten's post.  If someone wants, I can provide an
> example for Z's case, and we could encapsulate such behavior into a
> little library in contrib, to make it easy to configure such behavior.
> Compromising the parser for this application is not necessary.

I use org to write articles which discuss words in foreign languages.
These need to be distinctively typeset (in italics), and sometimes need
to be set in a special font with coverage for exotic characters.  I
would find it very useful to be able to define special emphasis
environments for these words.  Using macros feels too much like writing
LaTeX (which I use org to avoid having to write directly, as much as
possible...)

I see the goal of the syntactic standardization as making it easier to
operate with non-emacs tools; as Nicolas said:

> My point of view is the following: Org (as a format) definition
> shouldn't depend on Emacs. It should be totally parseable by any
> language (which is not the case actually, since syntax relies on
> variables defined in Emacs). IOW, we should work to make it a real
> plain-text markup format.

Personally, I am OK with articles I have written for export never being
able to be read by non-emacs tools (as opposed to other uses of org as a
database/schedule/agenda, where the ability to access the information in
other programs/programming languages would be useful).  I sympathize
with the goal of making the format accessible to other tools, but I also
think the ability to have within emacs additional flexibility
wrt. formatting (for both display and export) is worth preserving.

-- 
Aaron Ecay

  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-03-19  3:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-03-17 23:02 [Out-of-Thread] Re: [RFC] Org syntax (draft) zeltak
2013-03-18  6:08 ` Carsten Dominik
2013-03-18 10:48   ` Thorsten Jolitz
2013-03-18 13:33   ` zeltak
2013-03-18 15:21     ` W. Greenhouse
2013-03-18 16:05       ` Marcin Borkowski
2013-03-18 19:19       ` Carsten Dominik
2013-03-18 21:24         ` Rasmus
2013-03-19  3:47         ` Aaron Ecay [this message]
2013-03-19  9:49         ` Nicolas Richard
2013-03-21 21:36         ` Nicolas Goaziou
2013-04-12  6:23           ` Bastien
2013-04-12  6:23         ` Bastien
2013-03-19  4:07       ` Samuel Wales
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2013-03-20 17:47 zeltak
2013-03-07 20:37 Nicolas Goaziou
2013-03-09 23:16 ` Achim Gratz
2013-03-09 23:49   ` Nicolas Goaziou
2013-03-10  4:35     ` Jambunathan K
2013-03-10  7:08       ` Nicolas Goaziou
2013-03-10 10:14         ` Bastien
2013-03-10 15:44           ` Jambunathan K
2013-03-14 16:58             ` Eric S Fraga
2013-03-14 18:26               ` Jambunathan K
2013-03-14 18:51                 ` David Engster
2013-03-14 19:03                   ` [Out-of-Thread] " Jambunathan K
2013-03-14 19:15                     ` David Engster
2013-03-14 19:23                       ` Jambunathan K
2013-03-14 19:29                         ` David Engster
2013-03-14 19:52                           ` Jambunathan K

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