From: Dieter Wilhelm <dieter@duenenhof-wilhelm.de>
To: Nicolas Goaziou <n.goaziou@gmail.com>
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Some %elements in org-html-postamble-format became too "generous"
Date: Sun, 07 Apr 2013 18:26:44 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87txnixq63.fsf@duenenhof-wilhelm.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87ppy6xzjf.fsf@gmail.com> (Nicolas Goaziou's message of "Sun, 07 Apr 2013 15:04:20 +0200")
Nicolas Goaziou <n.goaziou@gmail.com> writes:
> Hello,
>
> Dieter Wilhelm <dieter@duenenhof-wilhelm.de> writes:
>
>> before 8pre it was better possible to translate the Org/Emacs information in the
>> postamble. If I'm using
>>
>> ("fr" "<p class=\"author\">Auteur: %a (%e)</p>\n<p class=\"date\">Date
>> de la modification: %d </p>\n<p class=\"creator\">Produit par %c
>> </p>\n")
>>
>> The result looks like:
>>
>> Produit par Generated by Org mode 8.0-pre in Emacs 24.3.3
>>
>> which also contradicts the documentation string of
>> org-html-postamble-format...
>
> I fixed this. "%c" equals to `org-html-creator-string' (#+CREATOR:)
> value. You are responsible for the translation.
Thank you, you're very helpful.
Even though I'm not yet happy with this because the
org-html-creator-string default:
"Generated by <a href=\"http://orgmode.org\">Org</a> mode 8.0-pre in <a href=\"http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/\">Emacs</a> 24.3.3."
is in my opinion too much language dependent! It requires the user who
wants to translate the preamble to change 2 places,
org-html-postamble-format *and* org-html-creator-string.
Why not simply making org-html-creator-string "name oriented", like:
"<a href=\"http://orgmode.org\">Org</a> mode 8.0-pre / <a href=\"http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/\">Emacs</a> 24.3.3."
Then one would be done with just translating
org-html-postamble-format...
>> By the way, I think the creation Time (%T) capability of the postamble
>> is rather pointless, could you please change it to the modification time
>> or add something (like %C)? This would save the hassle of putting
>> everywhere #+DATE: {{{modification-time(%Y-%m-%d)}}} into the files.
>> One could just change the %d to %C...
>
> I added %C.
Thank you.
Works wonderfully for English, sorry I forgot the more general case.
The default time string format has a day name included. Wouldn't it be
possible for the exporters to look for the language keyword e.g.:
#+LANGUAGE: fr and set the time string translated accordingly? I've no
idea how much work it is but I imagine org asking the OS under some
locale argument might do...
Or just using a default time string format which is language
independent, like %Y-%m-%d.
>> Moreover, I think the documentation string is not really precise about
>> the creation time. We have on Linux atime, mtime and ctime (Access,
>> Modification and in effect the inode "Change" time), probably the modern
>> file systems store additionally the "true Creation" time.
>
> This was about the creation time of the /output/, which is, in fact, the
> time of export. I changed the docstring to make it clear.
Sorry for the confusion, now I understand.
By the way, is it normal that org-html-postamble-format and
org-html-creator-string are not loaded before an html export is
triggered?
--
Best wishes
H. Dieter Wilhelm
Darmstadt
Germany
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-04-07 16:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-04-07 11:52 Some %elements in org-html-postamble-format became too "generous" Dieter Wilhelm
2013-04-07 13:04 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2013-04-07 16:26 ` Dieter Wilhelm [this message]
2013-04-07 17:35 ` Dieter Wilhelm
2013-04-07 18:35 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2013-04-07 18:32 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2013-04-07 18:51 ` Rick Frankel
2013-04-07 19:00 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2013-04-09 1:55 ` Rick Frankel
2013-04-10 12:44 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2013-04-10 13:15 ` [PATCH] org-contacts.el, add alias properties Feng Shu
2013-04-10 13:18 ` Bastien
2013-04-09 5:46 ` Some %elements in org-html-postamble-format became too "generous" Dieter Wilhelm
2013-04-09 9:54 ` Bastien
2013-04-10 18:13 ` Dieter Wilhelm
2013-04-07 20:52 ` Dieter Wilhelm
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