From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Nicolas Goaziou Subject: Re: [patch] extend org-meta-return to keywords Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2014 18:46:48 +0100 Message-ID: <87tx1p3j3r.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> References: <87egszw8ui.fsf@gmx.us> <87wq6o3u57.fsf@gmx.us> <87fvdb4l6c.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <87sihb4ede.fsf@pank.eu> <87lhn36nq1.fsf@gmx.us> <87bnny4ybq.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <87bnnx7sy3.fsf@gmx.us> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:50559) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XsbEb-0006CV-10 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 23 Nov 2014 12:46:13 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XsbES-0004l2-QC for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 23 Nov 2014 12:46:04 -0500 Received: from relay5-d.mail.gandi.net ([2001:4b98:c:538::197]:53909) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XsbES-0004ku-JQ for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 23 Nov 2014 12:45:56 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87bnnx7sy3.fsf@gmx.us> (rasmus@gmx.us's message of "Sun, 23 Nov 2014 18:00:36 +0100") List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Rasmus Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Rasmus writes: > I see it differently. I see M-RET as a function that "magically" adds > more of what is adjacent to point. Your "definition" is fuzzy: * Headline [lots of text] <-- M-RET here will insert a headline, which is by no mean adjacent to p= oint. > I=E2=80=94obviously=E2=80=94think what I propose is better than what we h= ave now. Let's > go through the current functionality. In this case I value simplicity over complexity (or "smartness", whatever you call it). Anyone, including newcomers, should be able to use M-RET without knowing about (affiliated) keywords, or be bothered with them. IMO, it /is/ sensible to insert a headline (or an item) without trying to outsmart the user.=20 Also, headlines are first-class citizens in Org. Keybindings acting on them shouldn't be bothered with other citizens. Regards,