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From: stardiviner <numbchild@gmail.com>
To: Nicolas Goaziou <mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr>
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [SOLVED] Re: [PATCH] Show hidden drawers when org-cycle on headlines
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2020 19:31:53 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87tv1fg192.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87o8rnwyvh.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr>

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Nicolas Goaziou <mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr> writes:

> Hello,
>
> stardiviner <numbchild@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> I thought intuitively that property drawers "mostly expanded" and regular
>> drawers like :LOGBOOK: drawer "mostly folded".
>
> There is no such thing as ":LOGBOOK:" drawers. There are property
> drawers, and regular drawers. "LOGBOOK" belongs to the latter.
>
>>> Another (better?) option would be: "don't mess with folding state" for
>>> regular drawers and blocks, i.e., what is open stays open, what is
>>> closed stays closed. But that's more difficult to achieve. Any taker?
>>
>> This indeed will be more difficult. I agree. It's not worth to be more
>> complicated.
>
> I think it is worth it, because it is a sane way to handle different
> needs.

That's will be great.

>
>>> In any case, I think property drawers need to be "mostly folded".
>>
>> In my opinion, this design is decided by the usage of properties drawers and
>> other regular drawers. For now, I only used this two drawers.
>
> Property drawers are _internal_ to Org, which means the contents are to
> be hidden. You can use property drawers, but think of them as
> a database. Seeing the guts of a database is hardly useful. However, Org
> provides tooling to read and write it, and even display it (e.g., Org
> Colview) without having to expand them.

Yes, I use it as a very tiny database. :)

> You may want to expand them to edit them, or simply retrieve
> information, it is all text after all, but that's not the intended use
> case, so there is no incentive to expand them automatically.

Sure. I have already got the new added functions. I can define a custom advice
on my own Emacs init file.

Thanks, Nicolas.

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  reply	other threads:[~2020-04-19 11:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-04-11  8:43 [PATCH] Show hidden drawers when org-cycle on headlines stardiviner
2020-04-11 16:05 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-04-13  3:29   ` stardiviner
2020-04-13  8:06     ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-04-13 16:28       ` stardiviner
2020-04-13  9:12     ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-04-13 16:31       ` [SOLVED] " stardiviner
2020-04-13 16:58         ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-04-13 20:00           ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-04-13 23:19             ` Tim Cross
2020-04-14  3:18             ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-04-14 12:58               ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-04-14 13:57                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-04-14  5:21             ` stardiviner
2020-04-14 12:55               ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-04-15  1:13                 ` stardiviner
2020-04-18 17:48                   ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-04-19  9:10                     ` stardiviner
2020-04-19 10:31                       ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-04-19 11:31                         ` stardiviner [this message]
2020-04-13 20:52 ` Samuel Wales
2020-04-15  1:26 ` [SOLUTION] " stardiviner

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