From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp12.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms0.migadu.com with LMTPS id yOtOG0WD4GG3ZAAAgWs5BA (envelope-from ) for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2022 20:53:41 +0100 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp12.migadu.com with LMTPS id UAG6F0WD4GFjBgAAauVa8A (envelope-from ) for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2022 20:53:41 +0100 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E0C8F1009A for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2022 20:53:40 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost ([::1]:37174 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n86AG-00079h-1t for larch@yhetil.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2022 14:53:40 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:38324) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n85z7-00040y-Tc for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2022 14:42:11 -0500 Received: from mout02.posteo.de ([185.67.36.66]:56905) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n85z5-0006v0-SI for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2022 14:42:09 -0500 Received: from submission (posteo.de [89.146.220.130]) by mout02.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D6589240103 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2022 20:42:05 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1642102925; bh=pf0X5GqOyfw3YblZfVRs81GO7WkCN9pGmBamZSAaQzw=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:From; b=Tqydt4K7ZWEOGw8EMN7+lsTugBi/QTG2UHZV2ZR9SXPEdDkNLlQzj5jG6nLFA64Pb 0W+jRMk+OBxd+lv6qQurpyHZ6Ovko6ILb9HIo4s0cQOW4Eq1QQGcgGVvQdnvCoehkY HS3LaAeq8KRIj8rk1jFK5/gsQdBgqJhT5qU/2P/8E0yRtkUUHBUGAqFsrOtjJh6Vdk scRa9VrgXHiwayoU39cX7QhN8nIVAstRdHqSTzAMN75lFB+PrzOFVMtbDJwjE4QuG4 +FtPeFe8QYq/SBb7E1s6xpMrU3k7PICRjOZC68YeS6kUscznzBykGmurvLIWcDIoxL l/94fhtz3UFyg== Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4JZZZP0yzHz9rxX; Thu, 13 Jan 2022 20:42:04 +0100 (CET) From: =?utf-8?Q?Juan_Manuel_Mac=C3=ADas?= To: fatiparty@tutanota.com Subject: Re: Playing down the text in org-mode References: <87bl0feahc.fsf@posteo.net-MtJnHBm----2> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2022 19:42:03 +0000 In-Reply-To: (fatiparty's message of "Thu, 13 Jan 2022 20:15:07 +0100 (CET)") Message-ID: <87tue7ctis.fsf@posteo.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.67.36.66; envelope-from=maciaschain@posteo.net; helo=mout02.posteo.de X-Spam_score_int: -43 X-Spam_score: -4.4 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: orgmode Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1642103621; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=epSNNZWo/tdNkFC6VhK1gOCQoZ3HZ42X7E37pDlYCWA=; b=k6aVzwwitvBfMAvQKQzvFsd/WGg1Q8OW0ntuoLkDHGTl94yVZ2ydX7AvMZ7d1TmSFk5Xw5 aCf9C84WdyNMwo6rT1zZILtgJ2nR53UIvSFReT8XasVQW1B4nLfBX+kJOfJDfoKLQ/FROR 2b5HboZGSe9ndI+tYOBzMWXMGDxX1a0R/FVtvDrwz6gvudrdPzXXeNTZr/y549eO/+Ax1p EoJiuipLGWvMZuQIdWdiVco6bEvE6bgS63AFBKmski5ZmaSEcz//cZpipftMJ2Cet/kChs rF/g/hAmf0a3sJRXH8dP1V1jQNAwPFwPE/FZsc3E/ledTwUQOdTnioOI4ap+rQ== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1642103621; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=P3MO6W7rvNrVpeXmUhVz/sfQWTIhYZAuqN3sMenfWGTfZZ22HBsThILLWnmBNk8YZY2Bxa OHIV3SEZa2iYmNycL2RXoK0iiI2lzjUMSOAF9fXIr8LhoMSptylp8poDYjqRWluZWeTZDl Hf0hsDa2Zn5KcWoZSlPDtpzEjSviYNuYQcOXsq9ZpuvmRNY0RsZ8gMtVh3vJNHAqMMseBH goEnZicHHYYHy2llojQGnjW2L+ad+jW/tJrTn44mahRs4utH59mHNilaVQAXrGQ9AYF8Ao Qz6bZ0JvOt0BiKfrqHYls9PgbGrHPhicihHpTTNT8huh/BcalLtlDk856lL7YQ== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=posteo.net header.s=2017 header.b=Tqydt4K7; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=posteo.net; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -6.12 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=posteo.net header.s=2017 header.b=Tqydt4K7; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=posteo.net; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: E0C8F1009A X-Spam-Score: -6.12 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: 1kCfYEsnGpPg fatiparty--- via "General discussions about Org-mode." writes: > _a geographical region that corresponds to present-day Israel and Palestine_ In any case, from a strictly (ortho)typographical point of view this is a matter of nesting emphasis. If what you want to do is highlight a word within another emphasis (an underline), the correct typographical procedure is to italicize or bold that word: _a /geographical/ region that corresponds to present-day Israel and Palestine_ ==> \uline{a \emph{geographical} region that corresponds to present-day Israel and Palestine} What you can't do in Org is nest emphases of the same order: #+begin_example /The translators of the /Odyssey/ in the Hispanic tradiction/ #+end_example It does not produce in LaTeX: #+begin_src latex \emph{The translators of the \emph{Odyssey} in the Hispanic tradiction} #+end_src It is not a matter of a passage being de-emphasized (it doesn't work that way), but rather that it is emphasized within another emphasis text. In the above case, the way to emphasize Odyssey in a text already emphasized in italics is with a normal font or with an underline (the correct thing is with a normal font). There are two separate questions here: how that is represented in Org and how it should be exported.