From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp12.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:8:6d80::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms5.migadu.com with LMTPS id OI+eA04eyWPjFgAAbAwnHQ (envelope-from ) for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2023 11:41:18 +0100 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:8:6d80::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp12.migadu.com with LMTPS id CFGAA04eyWMIEwAAauVa8A (envelope-from ) for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2023 11:41:18 +0100 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DBCD42E23F for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2023 11:41:17 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pISLY-00055L-SH; Thu, 19 Jan 2023 05:40:40 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pISLU-00053f-5Y for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2023 05:40:36 -0500 Received: from mout02.posteo.de ([185.67.36.66]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pISLR-00049O-U8 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2023 05:40:35 -0500 Received: from submission (posteo.de [185.67.36.169]) by mout02.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EE22F24022B for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2023 11:40:31 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1674124832; bh=Tr8HzJ83O8jqTzYKcFTzDMxopkB/ons9VQuTT15N9iQ=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:From; b=L5cc4YaPovIuZPzQRwAQ9QN8dBkiwL8dlPSvGEBNQX5LKUE6Q8Dc/ZobvvZtXLIYf G0ARVExQflbtk9mLQvyG7e9Jj47vh6oQOEvlw85S2mBjKAJBxAH/JR2sSzqtPWwICO hwSEf4St7EvpJpugLui7BxLovpwxhik6N8OogTfGbu90MVKgCmYUhHHw0Kzs/M2EYy riBrIdTruuAs3M37LqRmhe9EFgqNT04b/R6Vo+pBhsAqEsZzYMLlIY9TirwasYcPRL nu8FoCdIHPd1O4JFdwYMdxCoH/DBOz2H0HfuC4hyGa+4VK8dqj81jnReXctQ5CnqfI 5uT3ZRc6ejJXA== Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4NyK0G3PlTz9rxD; Thu, 19 Jan 2023 11:40:30 +0100 (CET) From: Ihor Radchenko To: Tim Cross Cc: Jean Louis , Daryl Manning , emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Subject: Re: [FEATURE REQUEST] Timezone support in org-mode datestamps and org-agenda In-Reply-To: <63c8708e.170a0220.ba554.60ef@mx.google.com> References: <86zgamtv6o.fsf@gmail.com> <87tu0t1i0c.fsf@localhost> <63c2aa9e.170a0220.3bb49.9ef4@mx.google.com> <87pmbhz1x6.fsf@localhost> <87wn5mlo7f.fsf@localhost> <87pmbelnd0.fsf@localhost> <87fscajo2q.fsf@localhost> <87a62g8a2m.fsf@localhost> <63c8708e.170a0220.ba554.60ef@mx.google.com> Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2023 10:40:51 +0000 Message-ID: <87tu0m4xjg.fsf@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.67.36.66; envelope-from=yantar92@posteo.net; helo=mout02.posteo.de X-Spam_score_int: -43 X-Spam_score: -4.4 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." 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Guess the > best we can do is go with the simplest solution and 'suck it and see". I am leaning towards this approach. We already do things like <2023-01-31 Thu +1m> -> <2023-03-03 Fri +1m> and people are OK with it, seemingly. -- Ihor Radchenko // yantar92, Org mode contributor, Learn more about Org mode at . Support Org development at , or support my work at