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From: Eric Abrahamsen <eric@ericabrahamsen.net>
To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Elisp programming style
Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2011 09:13:55 +0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87sjmc1r4s.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 18647.1319812286@alphaville.dokosmarshall.org


>> Would that be considered bad style from the original author, or is that
>> up to personal choice and not considered a problem?
> Not a problem - you can't predict the future. You do the best you can
> with your current knowledge. You can always refactor in the future:
> that's one reason that having the source code around is important.  When
> you refactor, you may be cursing the original author for the "bad"
> decicions, but c'est la vie: at least, you have chosen a system where
> *you* can do that and not depend on a third party: they might not even
> be alive, let alone willing to do what you want.

I think this is probably the key. As a non-professional programmer who
has gone on safari through the org-mode code (though this obviously
applies to a lot of elisp packages), I think incremental growth is
responsible for a lot of oddities. Refactoring is possible in theory,
but for fast-growing packages it never becomes a priority, and my guess
is by this point there are parts of org where even Carsten would tread
very lightly. It's not a disaster, but it does lead to regression bugs,
which I think we're seeing.

Entropy is contravened, however: witness the push towards an org test
suite, and the production of a generic exporter in org…

Slightly OT, sorry,


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 of 2011-10-06 on pellet
Org-mode version 7.7 (release_7.7.466.ga5cb)

  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-10-29  2:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-10-27 18:03 Elisp programming style Thorsten
2011-10-28 10:17 ` Štěpán Němec
2011-10-28 14:09   ` Thorsten
2011-10-28 14:31     ` Nick Dokos
2011-10-28 15:59       ` Thorsten
2011-10-29  2:13       ` Eric Abrahamsen [this message]
2011-10-28 14:34     ` Tassilo Horn
2011-10-28 14:40       ` Eric Schulte
2011-10-28 16:04       ` Thorsten
2011-10-28 14:35     ` Eric Schulte
2011-10-28 15:52       ` Thorsten
2011-10-28 17:43     ` Tom Prince
2011-10-28 18:05       ` Thorsten
2011-10-29  7:43         ` Tassilo Horn

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