From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Marcin Borkowski Subject: Re: Large LaTeX project in single file or using publishing Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2014 21:41:15 +0100 Message-ID: <87sih3hxcq.fsf@wmi.amu.edu.pl> References: <87zjbd0xam.fsf@pinto.chemeng.ucl.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:52927) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XuSM6-0002Te-9o for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 28 Nov 2014 15:41:36 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XuSM0-00083O-KW for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 28 Nov 2014 15:41:30 -0500 Received: from msg.wmi.amu.edu.pl ([2001:808:114:2::50]:43154) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XuSM0-00081w-Df for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 28 Nov 2014 15:41:24 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by msg.wmi.amu.edu.pl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 889AE4206E for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2014 21:41:21 +0100 (CET) Received: from msg.wmi.amu.edu.pl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (msg.wmi.amu.edu.pl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id DoXapeEXSvg8 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2014 21:41:21 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (117-116.echostar.pl [213.156.117.116]) by msg.wmi.amu.edu.pl (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 176AA42069 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2014 21:41:21 +0100 (CET) In-reply-to: <87zjbd0xam.fsf@pinto.chemeng.ucl.ac.uk> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Org-mode On 2014-11-27, at 11:09, Eric S Fraga wrote: > On Wednesday, 26 Nov 2014 at 19:00, Jacob Gerlach wrote: >> Hello list, >> >> I'm starting writing my thesis, for which I hope to remain in org-mode >> rather than regular LaTeX. > > I would encourage this. Although I have been using LaTeX for almost 30 > years, I now do all of my writing in org with the odd LaTeX directive > when necessary. With all the various LaTeX helper bits in org > (e.g. preview), there is little advantage to writing directly in LaTeX > any longer. On the contrary: Org-mode (however I like it) does not have the functions and keybindings that make writing LaTeX in AUCTeX so pleasant. C-c C-e can be simulated by speed keys to enter special blocks (to some extent, at least), but AFAIK there's no equivalent of C-u C-c C-e, nor (C-u) C-c C-f, nor C-c C-l with C-x ` (and probably some others I forgot about). BTW: are there any plans to support similar thing in Org? Maybe not in the core, but some kind of "plugin" in contrib? Like: convert region to italic/bold, or enter a special block with autocompletion (e.g., based on other special blocks in this very file), or change the surrounding special block to another one? OTOH, I don't try to convert anyone to using LaTeX; I'm only saying that there are valid reasons to use LaTeX over Org, at least in some cases. Though I would guess that they mean anything only for seasoned LaTeX/AUCTeX users: if you have invested over half of your life in learning TeX/LaTeX, and over a third of your life to learn AUCTeX, switching and having to fight your muscle memory is not an easy option;-). (And probably for some very special cases, too, where you have to manually tweak a lot of things with low-level TeX code, for instance.) > For me, the killer feature is the ability to put inline tasks in the > document so that I know what I need to work on without having to have a > separate task list or todo items within my general day to day task > list. Then a simple "C-c / t" shows me all the tasks for the current > document. And that is insanely cool, I have to say. (Though one can M-x occur in LaTeX - not the same, but close.) Best, -- Marcin Borkowski http://octd.wmi.amu.edu.pl/en/Marcin_Borkowski Faculty of Mathematics and Computer Science Adam Mickiewicz University