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From: Rasmus <rasmus@gmx.us>
To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [ox, patch] Add #+SUBTITLE
Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2015 16:29:31 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87sicx6of8.fsf@gmx.us> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87vbht2kri.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> (Nicolas Goaziou's message of "Sun, 22 Mar 2015 15:02:09 +0100")

Hi Nicolas,

I'm a bit confused by your message.

Nicolas Goaziou <mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr> writes:

> However, I think porting this feature to back-ends that do not support
> it out of the box is pushing too hard. 

In the patch there's ox-latex where e.g. KOMA-Script has as
subtitle-macro.  ox-html, ox-ascii, ox-odt all are pretty liberate formats
in terms of what elements are supported.

> Back-ends developers should try hard to support features defined in
> "ox.el" (in particular in `org-export-options-alist'). However, all
> back-ends are free to implement their specific keywords without adding
> burden on other libraries. "ox-texinfo" supports #+SUBAUTHOR, should we
> add it everywhere? I don't think so.

OK.  ox and org-element shouldn't be touched by the patch.

> This is why I suggested to move KEYWORD and DESCRIPTION outside of
> "ox.el", as they cannot be ported to all back-ends without relying on
> dubious markup.

Yeah, I still have a patch for that...  I still have to do the
documentation changes.

> Now, if SUBTITLE is a feature desperately needed everywhere, which can
> be discussed, it should be moved to "ox.el" and probably
> `org-element-document-keywords'. IMO, this is not necessary. SUBTITLE
> should be kept for back-ends that can handle it.

IMO it is.  The only place where there's a "hack" is in ox-latex and
that's cause article is the default class.  If you prefer, it can just
output to the \subtitle{·} by default and say it's KOMA-script only.  That
seems harsh, though.

> As a side note, "ox-texinfo" doesn't parse SUBTITLE. You might want to
> change it and update manual accordingly.

The patch doesn't touch ox-texinfo.  I don't mind fixing that bug, though.

—Rasmus

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  reply	other threads:[~2015-03-22 15:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-03-20 23:23 [ox, patch] Add #+SUBTITLE Rasmus
2015-03-21  2:26 ` Marcin Borkowski
2015-03-21  2:32   ` Melanie Bacou
2015-03-22 14:02 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2015-03-22 15:29   ` Rasmus [this message]
2015-03-22 20:47     ` Marcin Borkowski
2015-03-22 21:21       ` Thomas S. Dye
2015-03-22 21:23       ` John Williams
2015-03-22 22:43       ` Rasmus
2015-03-22 23:19         ` Marcin Borkowski
2015-03-23  0:05           ` Rasmus
2015-03-23  8:32             ` Marcin Borkowski
2015-03-23  9:00       ` Sebastien Vauban
2015-03-24  9:05     ` Nicolas Goaziou
2015-03-24  9:37       ` Rasmus
2015-03-28 15:17         ` Nicolas Goaziou
2015-03-26  2:36       ` Melanie Bacou
2015-03-26  2:38         ` Melanie Bacou
2015-03-26 10:10         ` Rasmus
2015-03-22 14:34 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2015-03-22 15:32   ` Rasmus
2015-03-23  1:17     ` Eric Abrahamsen
2015-03-26  2:47       ` Melanie Bacou
2015-03-26  9:52         ` Rasmus
2015-03-26 10:42           ` Rasmus
2015-03-28  8:26             ` Melanie Bacou

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