From: Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk>
To: John Kitchin <jkitchin@andrew.cmu.edu>
Cc: Tom Gillespie <tgbugs@gmail.com>,
org-mode-email <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>,
Bruce D'Arcus <bdarcus@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Expanding how the new cite syntax is used to include cross-references - thoughts?
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2021 16:22:04 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87sfzdv083.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJ51EToZ8ZpBMCjdMUiy-1GaCm+RFA_iP-D_XdpV18vcu=e8Uw@mail.gmail.com> (John Kitchin's message of "Thu, 12 Aug 2021 13:19:21 -0400")
Hello John & co.,
I need to chime in when it comes to the UI:
On Thursday, 12 Aug 2021 at 13:19, John Kitchin wrote:
> I would say the UI that I like, have used for many years, and is the
> default of org-ref is:
>
> 1. You type C-c ] to insert a citation
> 2. You type C-u C-c ] to insert a cross-reference
> 3. you type C-u C-u C-c ] to insert a new label.
UI is a very personal thing. So long as there are 3 different functions
that implement these actions, I would be happy. Despite using Emacs for
approximately 35 years, I use evil mode to avoid making my RSI worse
(RSI due originally to mouse use in the 80s, not Emacs ;-)). In that
context, typing C-u is not ideal. (C-c is worse, mind you.) I have a
"," leader key to which I add org specific commands when in org mode.
Just my 2¢.
In terms of the bigger picture, citations and cross-references, to me,
are different things (one is external and the other usually internal,
respectively) and I see no benefit in conflating them. I am also still
not convinced that org links are not sufficient but I don't mind if
there is a new syntax for cross-references, if this is deemed
beneficial. However, these feelings (as opposed to the UI issue) are
not strong and will easily adapt to whatever is decided.
eric
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-08-13 15:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-08-11 0:58 Expanding how the new cite syntax is used to include cross-references - thoughts? John Kitchin
2021-08-11 1:19 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-08-11 5:28 ` Tom Gillespie
2021-08-11 11:13 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-08-11 11:54 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-08-11 13:43 ` John Kitchin
2021-08-11 14:32 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-08-11 14:56 ` John Kitchin
2021-08-11 15:41 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-08-11 16:08 ` Timothy
2021-08-11 16:26 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-08-11 14:13 ` John Kitchin
2021-08-12 15:23 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-08-12 17:19 ` John Kitchin
2021-08-12 18:06 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-08-13 15:22 ` Eric S Fraga [this message]
2021-10-10 13:30 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-10-12 21:16 ` John Kitchin
2021-10-12 21:58 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-10-12 23:27 ` John Kitchin
2021-10-13 0:08 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-08-11 13:23 ` John Kitchin
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