From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp12.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms0.migadu.com with LMTPS id mPzrC2sZS2KEZAEAgWs5BA (envelope-from ) for ; Mon, 04 Apr 2022 18:14:35 +0200 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp12.migadu.com with LMTPS id GLAvCGsZS2ImrgAAauVa8A (envelope-from ) for ; Mon, 04 Apr 2022 18:14:35 +0200 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A315C6F20 for ; Mon, 4 Apr 2022 18:14:34 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost ([::1]:50488 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nbPLd-0008HC-NN for larch@yhetil.org; Mon, 04 Apr 2022 12:14:33 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:49418) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nbPFX-0000pS-KM for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Apr 2022 12:08:15 -0400 Received: from relay2-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.194]:47637) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nbPFV-0003pe-F8 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Apr 2022 12:08:15 -0400 Received: (Authenticated sender: admin@nicolasgoaziou.fr) by mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D8C6B40008; Mon, 4 Apr 2022 16:08:04 +0000 (UTC) From: Nicolas Goaziou To: Ihor Radchenko Subject: Re: Remove old WORG page with Org Syntax (draft) in favour of new syntax page by Timothy References: <87ee2dpk4h.fsf@localhost> <878rslpa2l.fsf@localhost> <9ab81ac1c7c4a2e26187cf50ee8f3000@posteo.de> <87o81hf2rm.fsf@localhost> Mail-Followup-To: Ihor Radchenko , c.buhtz@posteo.jp, Timothy , emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2022 18:08:02 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87o81hf2rm.fsf@localhost> (Ihor Radchenko's message of "Mon, 04 Apr 2022 20:31:57 +0800") Message-ID: <87sfqshlwd.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Received-SPF: pass client-ip=217.70.183.194; envelope-from=mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr; helo=relay2-d.mail.gandi.net X-Spam_score_int: -25 X-Spam_score: -2.6 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: c.buhtz@posteo.jp, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, Timothy Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-To: larch@yhetil.org X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1649088874; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post; bh=FrtUxMXUOMG8eyNuFSaJy4XFvvo7vGaN6X6AGOPkybc=; b=rLHI0kIGHQUtvRig1xDg3UGealBUQcu60+wzly5gUET72UO1VPao9L6rhvEhZwlZCOW09e AXosMbxyrm/x5200QFv5VHxz6QgYRQG6BZqtTVQTR24QVLal4g3/MBR3cx/q8taRD5eZH8 ulOUXknYPZbzR+6ZBXY3YNg26n6rorPQHJ1Hqg6frRoB0IcnV2pQICMqVFssyK45vhI8o9 RaW/3aB/epxxFkzqZCXzXFmqBRZGvybKXKF1DWk3g1213RVwnT68ihOEssfCbkI98e6LQ8 2xN+8/xhXP2CjYUyFeHJobgQdA/bTCDCFNyECEZemEjVS147OqtKQ7dtvpBmww== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1649088874; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=pP6xk/a/eaCGC90RoO1n9I8HAC2Aq+ol1zrjoQTP7is2vwb6O+feQbZI+MlPFt3JrdPxuY FhmkWsUZ1+SY2brC0lsmj0odv1O57s0n4gRcps/KNqBkqjmV21W8FdzMdX6lWAwFsY4qra +g5Buv6gw5AFa54EuK+0MfDqg937K4VfMsP3OTmoq8Ba0Zz1kPsF3UZyUFuR3alb9USgdc 7Y2f/ZXa2RI07HPv10GzYGpzCNiEuE+UonPCxrDCfOW3MVTa8w1boQJhuBzJr+MYdMdvcy QZpSdr9hr1rbAS5BnAxGd+fdtnW2Z2ai0Z67RnjRfI7j/kyHKNEmfFnDasw2yQ== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -3.68 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: A315C6F20 X-Spam-Score: -3.68 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: wbw6BD2APrP6 Hello, Ihor Radchenko writes: > We currently have two versions of Org syntax in WORG: > 1. https://orgmode.org/worg/dev/org-syntax.html (old, not always accurate) > 2. https://orgmode.org/worg/dev/org-syntax-edited.html (new, being > discussed in https://orgmode.org/list/871r1g936z.fsf@gmail.com) > > The old syntax page is apparently ranked higher by search engines, > creating confusion among users (see the above discussion and the below > message sent off-list). > > Maybe we can move org-syntax-edited in place of org-syntax at this > point? I personally think that Tecosaur's version is strictly superior > to the old draft, even though is can still be further improved. > > WDYT? I have no objection. However, I suggest to remove references to DATA, HEADERS, LABEL, RESNAME, RESULT, SOURCE, SRCNAME and TBLNAME in org-element-affiliated keywords, which are here for backward-compatibility reason, but shouldn't appear nowadays (and are not even mentioned in the manual). For the same reason, I suggest removing file+sys and file+emacs, which were (and are AFAIK) planned for removal. Regards, -- Nicolas Goaziou