From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Jason Earl Subject: Re: particular capture method for a diet .. ? Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2011 15:09:07 -0600 Message-ID: <87r58uc7t8.fsf@notengoamigos.org> References: <87wrimqdhm.fsf@dustycloud.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:39806) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QDNb6-0000PW-DV for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Apr 2011 17:09:05 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QDNb4-0005de-N4 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Apr 2011 17:09:04 -0400 Received: from mailout17.yourhostingaccount.com ([65.254.253.138]:51837) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QDNb4-0005d3-Kt for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Apr 2011 17:09:02 -0400 Received: from mailscan02.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.15.2] helo=mailscan02.yourhostingaccount.com) by mailout17.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtp (Exim) id 1QDNax-00027c-Sp for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Apr 2011 17:08:55 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87wrimqdhm.fsf@dustycloud.org> (Christopher Allan Webber's message of "Fri, 22 Apr 2011 14:42:45 -0500") List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Christopher Allan Webber Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, Stinky Wizzleteet On Fri, Apr 22 2011, Christopher Allan Webber wrote: > So I've been meaning to put something up on this in worg for a while. > > I've been dieting using orgmode, basic calorie tracking, and something > resembling the ideas out of "The Hacker's Diet" for the last year > (actually 2.5 years with a 1.5 year "break" in which I continued to > weigh in mostly but didn't follow my calorie goals ;)) and have lost > > 60 pounds so far (originally was 275, not all that's recorded in my > files during the first few weeks of dieting, anyway at 210 now), going > from morbidly obese to just overweight, and I'm still losing weight > (soon enough, being a fat guy will be far behind me). Here's the > org-babel generated gnuplot graphs to show it (regenerated and pushed to > my site every morning): > > http://dustycloud.org/tmp/weight.png > http://dustycloud.org/tmp/weight_month.png Congratulations! I have been doing something similar for just over a year. Unfortunately, I made the mistake of using Simple Emacs Spreadsheets for my spreadsheets (I didn't really know about org-mode when I started). This means my spreadsheets can hold about a month's worth of data before they become too big to be usable. I switched my weight spreadsheet into org a while back so that I could use gnuplot to make graphs, but my food log is still in SES. > Here's a screenshot: > http://dustycloud.org/tmp/org-diet2.png > > Roughly in the terrible amount of hacks that compose "org-diet" I've > wrapped together these ideas/tools: > - calorie tracking > - recipe calorie calculation > - weigh-in via org-capture > - calorie "clocking" (clock out at the end of the day to verify you've > got accurate numbers for that day) > - habit tracking of whether you've met your calorie goals > - weight graphing with 10 day moving averaging to remove some of the > "noise" from a daily weigh in/out > - bmi calculation > - a really shitty calories-per-day-to-lose-to-meet-your-goals estimator > > It's really nothing complex, and mostly it's not software, just a > methedology with a *slight* amount of poorly written software in elisp > and org-babel, but the system works great. It sounds more feature complete than what I am currently using, and I actually *like* what I am using. > I planned after meeting my diet goals (hitting normal weight) that I'd > release the whole thing (including my present diet file for reference) > under GPLv3, document it in worg, and put my own diet file out there > under CC0, but maybe I should do it sooner... problem is I don't have > time presently while trying to work on http://mediagoblin.org on > weekends to make a "proper" release, but I could at least bundle > together everything you need to have a full system using my hacks for > now if you want, with really terrible but usable documentation, > without taking up too much time. :) > > Interested? I could probably throw together a terrible tarball this > weekend if you want to use it and post it to the list. > > One thing that's clear from the diet I've collected: whenever I've > followed the system, without fail, I've lost weight. When I've > deviated I've stayed level or I've gained weight (the no-movement > middle of the diet graph I linked to). Follow the system, use habit > tracking and stuff, stick to your calorie goals (I shoot for a lower > occasional-goal of 1300 calories and an absolute minimum goal of 1600 > calories), and it *fucking works* without any support of the bullshit > diet industry. > > I've heard a few people saying they have interest in the stuff I have > so maybe I should just do that crappy release for now; better than > nothing? I would at least be interested in taking a look at it. No promises, of course, but if I ended up using it, I would at least be willing to help you package (and possibly document) what you have. > Hopefully being useful while making embarassing admissions about my > body, > - cwebb There is nothing embarrassing about losing over 60 pounds. The mediagoblin.org thing looks interesting as well. Jason