From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Feng Shu Subject: Re: Wanted: Caretaker of the ODT backend Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2013 22:43:04 +0800 Message-ID: <87r4ceuvpj.fsf@news.tumashu-localhost.org> References: <5CA18982-214C-486C-8B94-0DDA99EC70A2@gmail.com> <2F5692AA-B782-4AAD-972A-48E62FE748AB@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:42949) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VOTsC-0005R2-9g for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 10:46:01 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VOTs7-0002Xm-1q for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 10:45:56 -0400 Received: from mail-pa0-x22b.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400e:c03::22b]:64773) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VOTs6-0002XN-MW for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 10:45:50 -0400 Received: by mail-pa0-f43.google.com with SMTP id hz1so3777551pad.2 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 07:45:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from feng by tumashu with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VOTpQ-0007v8-M1 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 22:43:04 +0800 In-Reply-To: <2F5692AA-B782-4AAD-972A-48E62FE748AB@gmail.com> (Carsten Dominik's message of "Tue, 24 Sep 2013 15:36:08 +0200") List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Carsten Dominik writes: > Hi Christian, > > On 24.9.2013, at 15:18, Christian Moe wrote: > >> >> Hi, >> >> I don't have the developer skillz. >> >> Otherwise I'd be happy to help out any way I can, e.g. tracking issues >> and requests, digging into ODT format, replicating bugs and testing >> patches on a more systematic basis. > > Thanks, this would be great. > >> >> (The latter two assuming I can root out the setup/installation weirdness >> that seems to affect my local ODT export.) >> >> I see Jambunathan has placed his patches in the public domain under a >> GPL-compatible CC0 license. Other considerations aside, doesn't that >> mean they could be applied in Org? > > Putting them under CC0 means that we could use them, and that Emacs > could in principle use them as well. However, Emacs has made the *choice* > to only include stuff for which they have the copyright assignment to > the FSF. (Stefan does reiterate this in the thread following Jambunathans > message). Since Org is distributed as part of Emacs, this also applies > to us. > > I have looked at the patches. > > 1. Implement an alternative format for description lists. Description > lists are, I think, already "supported" by the odt exporter, even > though odt does not seem to support them natively. > 2. As far as I can see, this mainly implements a simpler way to access > attributes internally. It does not fix any bug I would know about. > 3. Introduces some kind of new way to force page breaks. I don't > see why we need it. > 4. adds jabref support. Sounds interesting, but I don't know if anyone > here uses it or would like to use it. I use this feature now. In my opinion, this is very cool. I use org-mode to write paper draft and export the draft to odf file instead of pdf file, the reason is that I can't develop a suitable latex style for our university... so ox-jabref.el + ox-odt.el become a easy approach. > > So I don't think any of this is required at this moment. But it would > be great if you could keep en eye out for mailing list requests and > bug reports around this exporter and try to get things fixed when necessary. > > Thanks! > > - Carsten > > >> >> Yours, >> Christian >> >> >> Carsten Dominik writes: >> >>> Hi eager Org mode contributors >>> >>> One more try - it would be really nice to find a volunteer for this task. >>> I can do this myself - but it would take time away from other tasks. >>> >>> - Carsten >>> >>> On 18.9.2013, at 06:38, Carsten Dominik wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I am looking for someone who knows about the internals of the ODT >>>> file format, and who would have time to become the responsible >>>> person for ox-odt.el. Since we cannot take patches from the >>>> original author (Jambunathan) anymore, this module is currently >>>> orphaned. >>>> >>>> There are a few recent patches Jambunathan has made and published here: >>>> >>>> http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=15384>>> >>>> We cannot take them (due to FSF rules and for other reasons as >>>> well) - but the new maintainer can take a look at them and see if >>>> there is functionality or bug fixes we need and re-implment those. >>>> For the rest I would hope that you can watch the mailing list and >>>> Emacs bug reports for issues related to this backend and try to >>>> fix them, obviously with support from the mailing list. >>>> Also,maybe there are ideas for additional functionality? >>>> >>>> Please write to me if you are interested. >>>> >>>> Thank you. >>>> >>>> - Carsten >> --