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From: Nick Dokos <ndokos@gmail.com>
To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] <img> vs <object> in HTML export
Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2014 14:12:06 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87r48f3b3t.fsf@alphaville.bos.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: cf32d8f09aa9412b50e9369e0471da9d@mail.rickster.com

Rick Frankel <rick@rickster.com> writes:

>> BTW, I tried using
>
>> <object data="foo.png" type="image/png"/>
>
> This does not work because the close tag is required according to the
> spec (like a script tag).
>

Yes, I figured that that was probably the case, even though FF seemed to
accept it (although I'm no longer sure what I have and have not
tried...) The primary reason I considered it was because
org-html-close-tag currently produces that form and I was trying to be
as non-intrusive (a.k.a. lazy) as possible.

> From a quick read on the interwebs, yes, it seems that <object> is an
> html4 specification. One problem with your solution, is that <object>
> does not allow an 'alt' attribute
>

I don't know if it's part of the standard or yet another hack but I
found this:

      http://www.w3schools.com/tags/tag_object.asp

in particular the Note in "Tips and Notes", which seems to imply that I can do

  <object data="foo.png" type="image/png"><img src="foo.png" alt="foo.png"/></object>

to accommodate browsers which don't recognize the <object> tag, as well
as accommodating the absence of a foo.png file (or the disallowing of
images). In my limited testing, that seems to work if the file is abesnt.

> The problem w/ <img src='foo.svg"/> according to my reading, is that
> it is not officially supported, and is only incidentally supported by
> the browsers (but, as you can see, without svg interactivity).
>
> I thing the solution is to use an <object> tag for svg, but an <img>
> tag for the rest. It might also make sense to just inline the svg?
>

If the above form works with all browsers, I'd prefer to go with that.
If it's actually part of a standard, I think it would be the perfect
solution, but I'm not holding my breath about that.

I have a patch (much better than the original one) that implements this.
I'll post it this weekend for comments.

> see:
> http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/IG/resources/svgprimer.html#SVG_in_HTML
> for an interesting writeup on the issues.
>

I found that one in my search but I was somewhat discouraged by the
number of pages (167) and its age (2010) and I did not really try to
read it carefully. But I've taken another look at the section you point
out and it is indeed a good reference - thanks for pushing me towards
it!

And thanks for the comments!

Nick

  reply	other threads:[~2014-01-10 19:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-01-09 21:10 [RFC] <img> vs <object> in HTML export Nick Dokos
2014-01-10 16:09 ` Rick Frankel
2014-01-10 19:12   ` Nick Dokos [this message]
2014-01-11  9:21   ` Bastien
2014-01-16 22:45     ` Rick Frankel
2014-01-16 23:18       ` Nick Dokos
2014-01-17  0:44       ` Nicolas Goaziou

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