From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: phillip.lord@newcastle.ac.uk (Phillip Lord) Subject: Re: Lentic.0.6 and org mode Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2015 16:11:21 +0000 Message-ID: <87r3uw81na.fsf@newcastle.ac.uk> References: <87zj9tml69.fsf@newcastle.ac.uk> <54AF03A8.1070102@free.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:44642) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YBn4V-00069f-9O for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Jan 2015 11:15:00 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YBn4R-00013B-5N for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Jan 2015 11:14:59 -0500 Received: from cheviot12.ncl.ac.uk ([128.240.234.12]:45252) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YBn12-0000H1-Qe for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Jan 2015 11:11:24 -0500 In-Reply-To: (joakim@verona.se's message of "Sun, 11 Jan 2015 13:33:20 +0100") List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: joakim@verona.se Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org writes: > Thierry Banel writes: > >> Nice! > > I also tried it and found it really interesting! Thank you. > >> >> I spent some time figuring out how to use it. >> >> This is what I did eventually: >> M-xlentic-mode >> M-xlentic-mode ;; twice >> M-x lentic-mode-split-window-below >> Then change the new buffer to the desired mode (Java mode, C++ mode, >> whatever). >> (I was created in fundamental mode). >> >> Is this the standard way to use it? > > I also scratched my head before figuring anything out. > > I installed from Melpa, and the Melpa Lentic comes with 0 docs, which is sad. What sort of docs are you looking for? Info? > Then I cloned the github repo, and tried the examples, and got a bit > more enlightened. > > To summarize, it would be nice if Lentic came with some form of docs in > the Melpa repo. Of course, even when installed from Melpa it is self-documenting in the sense that the source files are full of documentation. The lentic-org.el file contains a description of how to convert an existing file from being an normal el file to an "orgel" file (which is the name I have given to an el file that converts cleanly to an org file with lentic). I could translate these to info (via org-mode and texinfo). But melpa presents a challenge here, since it works on the source only, and I need to generate the texinfo from the source, at least as far as I know. So, unless, I can get MELPA to run arbitrary lisp during build, I do not know how this would work. Or I could denormalise my git repo and put the generated files in there; not ideal. > Or, why not install it en Elpa? It depends on dash.el which is not on ELPA. It's not that dependent on dash, though, so I could write dash.el out if I really needed to, but I am hoping that dash gets into ELPA before I reach 1.0. > BTW my interest in Lentic comes from that I recently started using > Litterate programming for my emacs init file (which works very well) > and also for some clojure/overtone code, where the literate paradigm is > pretty useful (because overtone is a music live coding environment) This was fairly similar to my driving use case, to be honest, where I am combining a Clojure based ontology development environment with documentation. I mentioned it to Sam Aaron last time I saw him, as I think he uses org-mode performance notes. I can't remember whether I had org-mode integration at that point, and it was slower then. I should ping him again. Phil