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From: Rasmus <rasmus@gmx.us>
To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Usage of org-element api
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2015 20:35:49 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87r3uu34dm.fsf@gmx.us> (raw)
In-Reply-To: CAC2TPPg_v_0Jb9mZY90mK=8YWF1GgL8ins7r2O8eZY4vn4HOoQ@mail.gmail.com

Hi Dieter,

Nicolas will probably reply at some point and he has much greater (∞ more)
insight in this topics.  None the less, I hope the below message will
help a bit.

Dieter Van Eessen <dieter.van.eessen@gmail.com> writes:

> 1) How to use org-element-content? Returns nil when used on elements parsed
> by org-element-<element>-parser (because they operate locally)  When used
> globally, it only seems to remove the car of the list (org-data ....)

Don't use org-element-<element>-parser directly.

Use org-element-at-point or org-element-contents.  The former is for
elements, the latter is for contents, such as scripts, bold, etc.  See the
head of org-element.el.

> 2) What is actually a normal workflow if you wish to interactive manipulate
> only some of the elements? Is it something like:
>  a)  Define the region in which you wish to manipulate things (using :begin
> and :extract from  org-element-at-point)

Org-element is a parser and manipulation might not be super efficient with
org-element, but it can be done.

OTOH Org-syntax is great for manipulation.  E.g. to insert a heading you
can do (insert (format "* %s" "my-heading")).

>  b) Parse the region: Get TREE and CONTENT
>      (Are they always separated for manipulation?)

See org-element-map for operating on a subset of the consents.  You could
also use narrowing to operate only on a subset of the buffer.

>  c) Manipulate tree AND/OR manipulate content


Manipulate whatever you have as you want.  Org-elements are plists.  Check
org-element-type, org-element-property, org-element-contents,
org-element-put-property, org-element-set-contents.  See also
";;; Accessors and Setters" in org-element.el.

org-element-interpret-data is the way to go from an element to
org-syntax.  Here's an example:

             http://emacs.stackexchange.com/questions/2869/turn-a-list-or-data-structure-into-an-org-document/

>  d) Interpret (the org-element-<element>interpreters seem to require
> <element> and content whilst the org-element-interpret-data only requires a
> single 'data'. Why?)

Don't use org-element-<element>interpreters.  Use
org-element-interpret-data for transforming org-element→org-syntax.

>  e) See the manipulated stuff appear in the buffer.

There's insert for that.

> 3) How can the output of (org-element-parse-secondary-string ...) be used.
> When I give a heading and bit of text as input (output of
> buffer-substring), it looks like it returns the 'content' of the region.
> Though I can't seem to use it anyway as 'CONTENT' for the functions
> requiring this.

I don't get this.

> 4) How to use org-element--parse-elements? Whilst it is running i notice
> that it uses (org-element--current-element) and some of the
> (org-element-<element>-parser) functions. Thought it could be nice to use
> this one, but no matter how use it, all I get is nil. For example:

In Emacs-lisp typically "--" indicates that it's a private function.
Don't use it.

> 5) What is org-element--current-element for? It also seems to be called by
> org-element--parse-element.The properties :begin, :end and :title  seem
> different than when parsing with org-element-at-point. Org-element-contents
> also nill when applied on the output. Why can't I use
>     this function (org-element--current-element) on plainlists/items
> (returns error with point within a plain-list/item)?

See above.

> I know the basic answer to most of these question is: Why don't you use
> (org-element-parse-buffer). Well simply because I don't need everything. in
> first implementation I only need:
> OR HEADLINE under point and it's subtree
>   (HEADLINE (plainlist (item,item,item)),(subheadline),...)
> OR the headline of an ITEM under point and subtree
>  (headline (plainlist (item, ITEM,item)),(subheadline),...).

So use org-element-map and org-element-parse-buffer.

Hope it helps,
Rasmus

-- 
The second rule of Fight Club is: You do not talk about Fight Club

  reply	other threads:[~2015-01-16 19:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-01-16 18:35 Usage of org-element api Dieter Van Eessen
2015-01-16 19:35 ` Rasmus [this message]
2015-01-16 21:45   ` Dieter Van Eessen
2015-01-16 22:04     ` Nicolas Goaziou
2015-01-17  0:33     ` Rasmus
2015-01-17 17:02       ` Dieter Van Eessen

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