From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Achim Gratz Subject: Re: Bleeding edge in elpa Date: Sun, 08 Mar 2015 21:20:29 +0100 Message-ID: <87r3szp7g2.fsf@Rainer.invalid> References: <87ioebmvex.fsf@gmail.com> <877furuzrp.fsf@jack.tftorrey.com> <87ioeb9s9i.fsf@gmx.us> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:41452) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YUhgs-0003wR-HB for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2015 16:20:47 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YUhgo-0001bu-Ee for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2015 16:20:46 -0400 Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:47612) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YUhgn-0001Zv-Tp for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2015 16:20:42 -0400 Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YUhgm-0004RP-Ap for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2015 21:20:40 +0100 Received: from p4ff1c8d1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([79.241.200.209]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 08 Mar 2015 21:20:40 +0100 Received: from Stromeko by p4ff1c8d1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 08 Mar 2015 21:20:40 +0100 List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Rasmus writes: > I agree. I have the same problem when I build documents (via CI) on a > remote Debian server where I don't want to mess around with anything more > than what comes with Emacs by default. You can use a tarball and the support for manual builds, described in: http://orgmode.org/worg/dev/org-build-system.html#sec-7 > I understand that in Emacs 25 Org, Company, Gnus, CEDET and maybe a couple > of other packages will move to GNU ELPA and thus separate release channels > (these packages will still be bundled with Emacs). This means we can push > out new versions easily, making more frequent releases more > attractive. None of this is going to lift one core limitation of package manager: "there can be only one". It doesn't support packages that subsume other packages, so "org-whatever" is totally different from "org" and would be installed together when referenced by dependencies even though it makes no sense. Regards, Achim. -- +<[Q+ Matrix-12 WAVE#46+305 Neuron microQkb Andromeda XTk Blofeld]>+ Samples for the Waldorf Blofeld: http://Synth.Stromeko.net/Downloads.html#BlofeldSamplesExtra