From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Matt Lundin Subject: Re: [OFF TOPIC] almost giving up on emacs email..looking for advice? Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2015 08:22:13 -0500 Message-ID: <87r3nahse2.fsf@fastmail.fm> References: <87egjgyo09.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:37773) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZP9VU-0006JZ-ST for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Aug 2015 09:22:21 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZP9VP-00033N-1h for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Aug 2015 09:22:20 -0400 Received: from out2-smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.26]:57536) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZP9VO-000337-P0 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Aug 2015 09:22:14 -0400 List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Fabrice Popineau Cc: Xebar Saram , org mode , Ramon Diaz-Uriarte , fabrice.popineau@centralesupelec.fr, Peter Salazar Fabrice Popineau writes: > On this thread, I will report quite a different user experience. > I have been a long time user of emacs and Gnus (Emacs since 1987). > I have been using (ding) Gnus under Windows NT in the late 90's and up > to about 2010. > > But now, I process my mail using the GMail browser interface. > The reasons are mostly due to : > - emacs is slow, chrome displays email more precisely and more quickly > - emacs is not multi-threaded, hence it may get stuck processing > stuff. Just to add my own off-topic contribution to this thread... I've found that gnus has sped up a good deal since 2010. I believe there have been some optimizatons in the code in the last several years. It takes about 5 seconds to start gnus on my under-powered machine, and that is with 4 nntp accounts (including rss via gwene.org), 2 email backends, and far too many groups! :) And this is with a lot of sorting and mail splitting. E.g., I've configured gnus to sort subscribed groups automatically by the number of times accessed, with the least read groups falling to the bottom. In my own experience (YMMV), I find the speed gain of navigating mail and news in gnus makes up for the brief lock-ups caused by (re)starting gnus or accessing a very large nntp group. I particularly appreciate the ability to insert the text of attachments into the buffer (via docx2txt, antiword, pdftotext, etc.) and to clip their contents into org-mode. Matt