From: Marcin Borkowski <mbork@mbork.pl>
To: Ruijie Yu <ruijie@netyu.xyz>
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [Q] How to italicize without introducing a space?
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2023 10:15:36 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87r0t80y8n.fsf@mbork.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <sdvr0t8fdy2.fsf@fw.net.yu>
On 2023-03-29, at 05:12, Ruijie Yu via General discussions about Org-mode. <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I am working on a piece of CJK text, which requires italicization.
>
> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
> 任何一个章节可以通过增加例如 =TODO= 或者 =HOLD= 等关键词来被设置成 /待办/ 。
> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
>
> Note the spaces before and after the pair of `?/'. Without these
> spaces, the HTML export does not show "待办" as italicized, but instead
> treat them as inline literal `?/' characters, which is expected in
> current Org implementation.
>
> Also note that -- unlike English -- Chinese sentences rarely use spaces
> (if at all), so showing the space simply because the Org grammar needs
> it seems unnatural.
>
> However, I don't immediately see how to resolve the issue natively in
> Org. If we allow `?/' to italicize regardless of spaces, then things
> like Unix paths would no longer work.
>
> So, I came up with using LaTeX like this:
>
> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
> 任何一个章节可以通过增加例如 =TODO= 或者 =HOLD= 等关键词来被设置成\(\textit{待办}\)。
> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
>
> This has two drawbacks:
> 1. (network-related?) Delay. Apparently HTML uses MathJax to render
> LaTeX, and my browser experiences a 1-second delay due to it needing to
> download JS code from MathJax and doing some processing.
> 2. Transferability. This only resolves the issue of /italicization/.
> What if I need to underscore or bold a piece of text (likely), or to add
> an inline code block with CJK characters (unlikely)? I would have to
> search for how to do each in LaTeX and write the workaround accordingly,
> instead of simply using the Org markup syntax for each of them.
>
> Are there any other solutions than what I have currently?
My go-to solution (and not only mine, I guess) is to use a zero-width
space. I even have a command to do this:
(defun insert-zero-width-space ()
"Insert Unicode character \"zero-width space\"."
(interactive)
(insert 8203))
Hth,
--
Marcin Borkowski
http://mbork.pl
prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-03-29 8:16 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-03-29 3:12 [Q] How to italicize without introducing a space? Ruijie Yu via General discussions about Org-mode.
2023-03-29 6:06 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2023-03-29 6:18 ` Ruijie Yu via General discussions about Org-mode.
2023-03-29 7:05 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2023-03-29 8:15 ` Marcin Borkowski [this message]
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