* Quick poll - do you use the agenda more as a query interface or as your main view
@ 2012-09-07 22:33 Marcelo de Moraes Serpa
2012-09-11 11:20 ` Bernt Hansen
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From: Marcelo de Moraes Serpa @ 2012-09-07 22:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Org Mode
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I'm wondering: Do you use the agenda more as a query interface or as your
main view?
I tend to use the agenda for its powerful search capabilities, and either
use follow mode and or enter to get more hierarchical context of the task
(since I tend to follow GTD, and there's always a project/sub-projects with
actions (TODO), so an item by itself might not have all the necessary
information about it (what project does it belong to, for example). But I
never use it as my "main view".
In fact, it would be nice if we could have an agenda view that showed
items hierarchically (like follow mode, but in the agenda listing itself,
perhaps with the levels configurable). I might play around with it and see
if I can come up with something :)
Cheers,
- Marcelo.
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2012-09-07 22:33 Quick poll - do you use the agenda more as a query interface or as your main view Marcelo de Moraes Serpa
@ 2012-09-11 11:20 ` Bernt Hansen
2012-09-11 17:06 ` Samuel Wales
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From: Bernt Hansen @ 2012-09-11 11:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Marcelo de Moraes Serpa; +Cc: Org Mode
Marcelo de Moraes Serpa <celoserpa@gmail.com> writes:
> I'm wondering: Do you use the agenda more as a query interface or as your main view?
>
> I tend to use the agenda for its powerful search capabilities, and
> either use follow mode and or enter to get more hierarchical context
> of the task (since I tend to follow GTD, and there's always a project/
> sub-projects with actions (TODO), so an item by itself might not have
> all the necessary information about it (what project does it belong
> to, for example). But I never use it as my "main view".
>
> In fact, it would be nice if we could have an agenda view that showed
> items hierarchically (like follow mode, but in the agenda listing
> itself, perhaps with the levels configurable). I might play around
> with it and see if I can come up with something :)
The hierarchy of items in the agenda is shown on the modeline when you
navigate over each item. I use the agenda to navigate through my
headings and find what I'm working on - then work in the org file until
I need to work on something else ... which brings me back to the agenda
to find out what that is.
Regards,
Bernt
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2012-09-07 22:33 Quick poll - do you use the agenda more as a query interface or as your main view Marcelo de Moraes Serpa
2012-09-11 11:20 ` Bernt Hansen
@ 2012-09-11 17:06 ` Samuel Wales
2012-09-11 17:17 ` Manuel Hermenegildo
2012-09-11 18:44 ` Charles Philip Chan
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From: Samuel Wales @ 2012-09-11 17:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Marcelo de Moraes Serpa; +Cc: Org Mode
On 9/7/12, Marcelo de Moraes Serpa <celoserpa@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm wondering: Do you use the agenda more as a query interface or as your
> main view?
Query. Org agenda is my personal Google.
It is highly appealing as a main view, but for me it is both far too
slow and dangerous.
By dangerous, I mean that you can perform an operation on the wrong
headline without realizing it, because the markers can get out of
sync.
I sort both in the agenda and in the outline, using the same sort
metastrategy. It is a familiar sorting order. Indentation in the
agenda would not help me.
What would help, however, is the ability to dim ancestor tasks of any
task that also shows in the same agenda view. The built-in blocking
dimming is different from this.
Also, alternatively, sometimes I would want to dim descendant tasks of
any task that also shows in the same agenda view.
Samuel
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2012-09-11 17:06 ` Samuel Wales
@ 2012-09-11 17:17 ` Manuel Hermenegildo
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From: Manuel Hermenegildo @ 2012-09-11 17:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Samuel Wales; +Cc: Org Mode, Marcelo de Moraes Serpa
Main view! --Manuel
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* Re: Quick poll - do you use the agenda more as a query interface or as your main view
2012-09-07 22:33 Quick poll - do you use the agenda more as a query interface or as your main view Marcelo de Moraes Serpa
2012-09-11 11:20 ` Bernt Hansen
2012-09-11 17:06 ` Samuel Wales
@ 2012-09-11 18:44 ` Charles Philip Chan
2012-09-11 21:47 ` Moritz Ulrich
2012-09-12 13:59 ` Bastien
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From: Charles Philip Chan @ 2012-09-11 18:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Org-mode
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Marcelo de Moraes Serpa <celoserpa@gmail.com> writes:
> I'm wondering: Do you use the agenda more as a query interface or as
> your main view?
Both.
Charles
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2012-09-07 22:33 Quick poll - do you use the agenda more as a query interface or as your main view Marcelo de Moraes Serpa
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2012-09-11 18:44 ` Charles Philip Chan
@ 2012-09-11 21:47 ` Moritz Ulrich
2012-09-12 13:59 ` Bastien
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From: Moritz Ulrich @ 2012-09-11 21:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Marcelo de Moraes Serpa; +Cc: Org Mode
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Marcelo de Moraes Serpa writes:
> I'm wondering: Do you use the agenda more as a query interface or as your
> main view?
Both.
I usually keep a sticky agenda for my habits, tasks for today, etc.
Projects are managed mostly without the agenda. (Sometimes I add
deadlines etc.)
What I use often is search and some custom agenda for querying (billing
periods).
--
Moritz Ulrich
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2012-09-11 21:47 ` Moritz Ulrich
@ 2012-09-12 13:59 ` Bastien
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From: Bastien @ 2012-09-12 13:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Marcelo de Moraes Serpa; +Cc: Org Mode
Hi Marcelo,
Marcelo de Moraes Serpa <celoserpa@gmail.com> writes:
> In fact, it would be nice if we could have an agenda view that showed
> items hierarchically
This has been often requested and I made a step toward this.
`org-agenda-prefix-format' now understands a new specifier %l.
When used in a format string, it will insert X spaces for the
X level of the entry.
Imagine you have a file like:
* NEXT Level 1
SCHEDULED: <2012-09-12 mer.>
** NEXT Level 2
SCHEDULED: <2012-09-12 mer.>
and `org-agenda-prefix-format' is
(setq org-agenda-prefix-format
'((agenda . " %i %-12:c%?-12t% s %l") <= note the %l here
(timeline . " % s")
(todo . " %i %-12:c")
(tags . " %i %-12:c")
(search . " %i %-12:c"))
Then M-x org-agenda RET a will output this:
Week-agenda (W37):
Monday 10 September 2012 W37
Tuesday 11 September 2012
Wednesday 12 September 2012
test: Scheduled: NEXT Level 1
test: Scheduled: NEXT Level 2 <= added one space
Thursday 13 September 2012
Friday 14 September 2012
Saturday 15 September 2012
Sunday 16 September 2012
It would be nice to toggle this display on the fly -- this is on my
TODO list.
Best,
--
Bastien
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