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From: Nicolas Goaziou <n.goaziou@gmail.com>
To: Rasmus <rasmus@gmx.us>
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] Sloppy `org-element-context'?
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2014 10:26:24 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ppl6r7wf.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87r45njpgp.fsf@pank.eu> (rasmus@gmx.us's message of "Thu, 27 Mar 2014 22:34:14 +0100")


Rasmus <rasmus@gmx.us> writes:

> Would it make sense to make it optional?

I thought about it. But adding an optional argument to determine if
`org-element-context' should be strict or sloppy doesn't help in
practice, since one will probably often wonder if he needs to switch to
sloppy mode or not.

Also, `org-element-context' is not needed for parsing a buffer (with
`org-element-parse-buffer'). Thus, strict behaviour is not mandatory.

> I haven't seen this discussion.  I looked briefly at the suggested
> patch; I don't understand why it would be necessary or desirable.  But
> I will not rule out that I have yet to consider the correct case!

For example, one may write

  :SOME_LINK: [[my-link:destination]]

and expect C-c C-o to open the link in the properties drawer. I can see
the practical use, but not at the syntax level, which defines it as
a plain string. Indeed, this can get worse:

  :REMEMBER: <2014-03-28 Fri>

introduces a timestamp hidden to the user but not to the agenda.

> As a hacker (not quite a developer!), I do at time desire more
> flexibility with org-context to temporarily evaluating an element
> under alternative assumptions of its properties.  A recent example
> evaluate $x^{z}$ as-if it isn't a latex-fragment.

I think this would go too far. Considering $x^{z}$ as anything else than
a latex fragment is not a good idea. What is the next step? Should the
snippet $a =b \qquad c= d$ be seen as strike-through?


Nicolas Goaziou

  reply	other threads:[~2014-03-28  9:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-03-27 15:28 [RFC] Sloppy `org-element-context'? Nicolas Goaziou
2014-03-27 21:34 ` Rasmus
2014-03-28  9:26   ` Nicolas Goaziou [this message]
2014-04-19  8:47 ` Bastien
2014-04-19  9:15   ` Nicolas Richard
2014-04-19  9:30     ` Bastien
2014-04-23 20:35   ` Nicolas Goaziou
2014-04-29 21:20     ` Nicolas Goaziou
2014-05-06  9:25       ` Bastien
2014-05-26 15:50         ` Bastien

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