From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Eric Abrahamsen Subject: Re: [OFF TOPIC] almost giving up on emacs email..looking for advice? Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2015 12:30:04 +0800 Message-ID: <87pp2tgmcz.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> References: <87egjgyo09.fsf@gmail.com> <6sw6c7vbcmypwh.fsf@dhcp-6-148.hmco.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:47202) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZPNgA-0004di-91 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Aug 2015 00:30:19 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZPNg5-0004wi-9T for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Aug 2015 00:30:18 -0400 Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:44971) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZPNg5-0004wQ-1z for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Aug 2015 00:30:13 -0400 Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZPNg2-00075M-FI for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Aug 2015 06:30:11 +0200 Received: from 114.250.104.125 ([114.250.104.125]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 12 Aug 2015 06:30:10 +0200 Received: from eric by 114.250.104.125 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 12 Aug 2015 06:30:10 +0200 List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Peter Salazar writes: > Like Fabrice, I also still process my email using the Gmail web > interface. The only reason I want email within Emacs is so I can > compose replies in a proper editor with all my keybindings. I tried > Chrome's Edit with Emacs, but it loses line breaks when it sends the > output from Emacs back to Gmail. So I prefer to write replies within > Emacs. > > Since I only need a small fraction of my emails to go through Emacs, I > set up mbsync to pull only my starred messages: > > Channel gmail-starred > Master :gmail-remote:"[Gmail]/Starred" > Slave :gmail-local:starred > Create Both > Expunge Both > SyncState * > > If this is of interest to you I can share my setup. I agree that having email accessible locally is key to making Gnus usable. All my email is synced to local dovecot server, and Gnus accesses that -- no lag at all. Sending messages is still a big pain, though. I send using msmtp, and there's an add-on called msmtp-queue that would apparently allow Gnus to hand off messages instantly, but I've never spent the time to get it set up. I sure wish IMAP could handle both sending and receiving messages! E > On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 8:23 AM, Peter Davis > wrote: > > > Fabrice Popineau writes: > > > On this thread, I will report quite a different user experience. > > I have been a long time user of emacs and Gnus (Emacs since > 1987). > > I have been using (ding) Gnus under Windows NT in the late 90's > and up > > to about 2010. > > > > But now, I process my mail using the GMail browser interface. > > The reasons are mostly due to : > > - emacs is slow, chrome displays email more precisely and more > quickly > > - emacs is not multi-threaded, hence it may get stuck processing > > stuff. > > Using the browser to process mail allows me not to be disturbed > when > > I'm writing documents or programming using Emacs. > > > > I'll keep and eye on the solutions that have been reported here > > though. > > Interesting. I use a variety of email clients, mainly > browser-based ones (GMail, Fastmail), Thunderbird, and gnus. I > keep gnus in > the arsenal for three main reasons: > > 1) I can do everything quickly without having to move my hands > from the keyboard. If there isn't already a shortcut for what I > want, > I can add one. > > 2) I need a decent editor for replies. I have not found a > browser-based client that has this. > > 3) To bring this somewhat back on topic, I've recently discovered > org capture, and I love the fact that I can capture a note with a > link to a specific email message. > > That last feature alone is reason enough for me. FWIW, I'm on a > Mac, and I generally use Gnu emacs for editing, programming, etc., > and use Aquamacs for running gnus. This avoids any latency > problems, etc. > > -pd