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Thank you. I should have done that (had I thought if it ;-)) but deadline met in any case. Next time. > If you get some time and encounter the described issue, can you try to > run M-: (setq org-fold-core-first-unfold-functions nil) and try > org-reveal again? Okay. I cannot replicate the problem with the file I had problems with yesterday (the file has obviously changed in the meantime) but will do so when/if it arises again. On a related matter, I typically use vc-ediff for comparing the current working copy of a file and the last committed version. This used to expand the file completely (assuming I'm remembering correctly) but now (some?) drawers are not opened so if there are differences inside a drawer, I cannot see them via ediff. Does this make sense? If so, is there something I should customise to have *everything* opened when using ediff? Thanks again, eric -- : Eric S Fraga, with org release_9.5.3-472-gd2a459 in Emacs 29.0.50