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It would mean better alignment with the rest of the text modes in Emacs so I would be supportive. But I only tend to use filling for paragraphs in any case so the breaking change would not affect me much. --=20 : Eric S Fraga, with org release_9.5.5-853-g7b9d8e in Emacs 29.0.50=