From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Ben Finney Subject: Re: Dumbquotes in exported source listings Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 07:40:08 +1000 Message-ID: <87oc3mgkw7.fsf@benfinney.id.au> References: <871v0ji04p.fsf@benfinney.id.au> <11009.1304276930@alphaville.americas.hpqcorp.net> <80bozmkw0n.fsf@somewhere.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:59317) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QGeNO-0007IR-Rj for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 01 May 2011 17:40:27 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QGeNN-0001tF-D7 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 01 May 2011 17:40:26 -0400 Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:45648) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QGeNN-0001t7-4Z for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 01 May 2011 17:40:25 -0400 Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QGeNM-0008KW-Ii for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 01 May 2011 23:40:24 +0200 Received: from eth595.vic.adsl.internode.on.net ([150.101.214.82]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 01 May 2011 23:40:24 +0200 Received: from ben+emacs by eth595.vic.adsl.internode.on.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 01 May 2011 23:40:24 +0200 List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Sébastien Vauban writes: > Nick Dokos wrote: > > Ben Finney wrote: > >> Nowadays with Unicode available ubiquitously we can simply use the > >> correct typographical quotation marks directly in the plain text > >> file, but TeX and some other legacy systems don't work very well > >> with Unicode. > > I really hate those "smart quotes", better named "dumb quotes", Again, that's just confusing the terminology, since both “smart quotes” and “dumb quotes” already have connotations. If you want a neutral term for the typographically-correct quotation marks, try “directional quotes”. Here is a discussion of the history of the “`” and “'” usage and why it's a problem . -- \ “Please do not feed the animals. If you have any suitable food, | `\ give it to the guard on duty.” —zoo, Budapest | _o__) | Ben Finney