From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Florian Friesdorf Subject: Re: mail integration, advice? Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 04:03:46 +0800 Message-ID: <87obqe2rbx.fsf@eve.chaoflow.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:36697) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SNUuz-0002US-3v for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Apr 2012 16:03:58 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SNUuw-0003ep-OZ for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Apr 2012 16:03:56 -0400 Received: from tesla.chaoflow.net ([188.40.54.22]:57755) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SNUuw-0003ea-FY for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Apr 2012 16:03:54 -0400 In-Reply-To: List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Matt Price , Org Mode --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 26 Apr 2012 09:47:40 -0400, Matt Price wrote: > I'd like to take one more shot at returning to text-based email within > emacs, mostly because I want to be able to integrate mail easily into > my org-mode workflow. The last time I tried this I used wanderlust, > and I'd be willing to give it a try again but a couple of things have > discouraged me in the past: > - wl causes emacs to freeze up when it checks or sends mail, and can > take quite a long while to complete these operations I fetch emails with offlineimap - it seems to use a lot of bandwith/time/cpu and I heard that mbsync might be better - nevertheless it does it's job. The emails are placed into a maildir and indexed and tagged with notmuch via a post sync hook. I'm very happy with emacs + org-mode + notmuch, creating tasks from email that link back to the email being one of the small but great things. > - wl seems to have gone quasi-dormant, with very little activity on > the mailing list and no recent releases; it also relies on two other > packages, FLIM and APEL, with similarly dormant mailing lists >=20 > So, I'm wondering what solutions other org users have settled on. My > current hopes for this: > - allow me to continue using Thunderbird as a backup for e.g. images > and highly formatted mails -- thunderbird is currently set up w/ local > copies of IMAP folders for my current mail, plus local archives served > on by dovecot that can be accessed both by thunderbird and by e.g. > wanderlust. you could index the thunderbird folders with notmuch, but I don't know how it will behave if you move or delete messages. > - fast search and easy-to-manage virtual folders of some kind -- I see > mu and notmuch are very strong on both these fronts notmuch searches are very fast, but the database takes disk space. Indexing in recent versions is very very quick. mail: 7.4GB notmuch db: 3.6GB > - easy, stable harvesting of email-based data through org-capture (if > possible, this should allow me to archive a message and still be able > to find it when I follow an org message link) notmuch solely works with tags: something is in your inbox, if it has the inbox tag. If notmuch starts to support moving messages to folder and giving them implicit tags, the link would still be through notmuch and not to a specific file. Maybe notmuch supports this already, I did not have the time to investigate. > - would be nice if configuration didn't require TONS of lisp code, a I > am a very slow coder and these kinds of configuration tasks can be > very daunting for me. close to zero configuration needed and full "GUI" support through emacs customize. > - shouldn't slow down my workflow too much -- I should be able to very > quickly check my email then return to an org buffer to continue > writing. It actually sped up my workflow massively and was together with org-mode the number one reason to switch to emacs, after very very long years of using vi derivates. =2D-=20 Florian Friesdorf GPG FPR: 7A13 5EEE 1421 9FC2 108D BAAF 38F8 99A3 0C45 F083 Jabber/XMPP: flo@chaoflow.net IRC: chaoflow on freenode,ircnet,blafasel,OFTC --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.18 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJPmaoiAAoJEDj4maMMRfCDgfIP/2Qpbp6+Bzxg4UryrURi1J4T 1476bPd3Ct8GDRx7PjjOS5cDGk4W4ej3vL8oNR4Ion9DUk5m5ZnuY8GoocqLyhRr bGsVopXp8wmA51tIDQ2mXPLC3nXnqxsgMC4PEmLV9r4FSYOrJA7RTZAeRgwoPz0t QdJwDt1GoQCDo1p3znnp7R8k8bIoa43qqspd0QkTqKDALKAcsfJGfxD2YDpGjGns NNZ3JrZzJFxfMTif2p0xtLQA5G0PrGtEB82x1zSWRi3osLES4DouTmHpabZKa9o2 r+lZVmhWDkyneW5qZbNaOVvCheLxd9JYKM2t2wwwGJ/W6R4xpXkL6ruVgkPTX/Xx alKH61iw4oEohucOBwu8ZXFsyfZPKp5wLt9rdeRlpVMPMJVC5Ho36l++x/EF+KJR jOpg33Ty83rTx+0Hy9hV62Iv0AmW9mmgCoDMGThW6SDp32Br4WNmGx9gaJ9trqO7 PoDOWH5lnHKQBe9QuB1K3rNeMsGW8Ic/Jfq8C6u5oUoBseUlo+2ETJ93bKFJG631 ivGReNaXHAxJQNLorL8HF7zopb9f6HSgDA1Pyq7M8vcibwr9ngx3NL4ZcjwEraRC LArMmWyI5LGUIupK2yUH4Sg8YxZ2o4RJHGhIJ5yiOrPCeA7B2v5h9ej13byQsOVN Y9lSb0pqUJ8G019NvO6p =BmtK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--