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* Timestamp practices?
@ 2013-03-20 14:30 Lawrence Bottorff
  2013-03-20 14:39 ` Bastien
  2013-03-20 15:13 ` Thorsten Jolitz
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Lawrence Bottorff @ 2013-03-20 14:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode

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I'm trying to give each header entry a timestamp. To do this I create a
drawer like this:

:PROPERTIES:
:CUSTOM_ID: [2013-03-19 Tue 14:26]
:END:

Initially, I do C-u M-x org-insert-drawer. This gives me

:PROPERTIES:

:END:

Then I do C-c C-x p and choose CUSTOM-ID. Then I insert a timestamp. Here's
what it looks like (expanded):

** Links
*** [[http://www.neo4j.org/][The World's Leading Graph Database]]
:PROPERTIES:
:CUSTOM_ID: [2013-03-19 Tue 14:26]
:END:

*** [[http://www.manning.com/carlson/][Redis: NoSQL; key-value; in-memory]]
:PROPERTIES:
:CUSTOM_ID: [2013-03-19 Tue 19:34]
:END:

**** [[
http://justinsboringpage.blogspot.com/2011/07/eredis-redis-client-in-emacs-lisp.html][eredis:
a Redis client in emacs lisp]]
:PROPERTIES:
:CUSTOM_ID: [2013-03-19 Tue 19:42]
:END:

I'd like to know the best practice for adding such timestamps. Am I gaining
anything by enclosing the timestamp in such an elaborate drawer? Are these
two commands the best way to do this? Or is there a more automated approach?

In general, I can't help but marvel at the ad-hoc, on-the-fly data
management possibilities org-mode offers. It seems like the sky's the
limit. But I'd like opinions on whether I'm stumbling along a blind alley.

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* Re: Timestamp practices?
  2013-03-20 14:30 Timestamp practices? Lawrence Bottorff
@ 2013-03-20 14:39 ` Bastien
  2013-03-20 15:13 ` Thorsten Jolitz
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Bastien @ 2013-03-20 14:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Lawrence Bottorff; +Cc: emacs-orgmode

Hi Lawrence,

Lawrence Bottorff <galaxybeinglambda@gmail.com> writes:

> I'd like to know the best practice for adding such timestamps. Am I
> gaining anything by enclosing the timestamp in such an elaborate
> drawer? 

It really depends on what you want to achieve, but I'd say no, in
general.

> Are these two commands the best way to do this? Or is there a
> more automated approach?

I would simply use a bare time-stamp like this

* Headline
  <2013-03-20 mer.>

Use C-c . to insert the active time-stamp, or C-c ! to insert an
inactive one, or use shift-up/down on the brackets to switch from
active to inactive.

> In general, I can't help but marvel at the ad-hoc, on-the-fly data
> management possibilities org-mode offers. It seems like the sky's the
> limit. But I'd like opinions on whether I'm stumbling along a blind
> alley.

In any case, using a time-stamp in CUSTOM_ID does not seem to be a
good idea, as this id will be used as an anchor in various contexts
(link search, HTML, etc.)  So better use a bare time-stamp I'd say.

HTH,

-- 
 Bastien

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* Re: Timestamp practices?
  2013-03-20 14:30 Timestamp practices? Lawrence Bottorff
  2013-03-20 14:39 ` Bastien
@ 2013-03-20 15:13 ` Thorsten Jolitz
  2013-03-21 10:15   ` Samuel Loury
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Thorsten Jolitz @ 2013-03-20 15:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode

Lawrence Bottorff <galaxybeinglambda@gmail.com> writes:

> I'm trying to give each header entry a timestamp.

This is from Bernt Hansen and automagically inserts a timestamp each
time you insert a new header - if you want so. 
If not, you can toggle the behaviour. Nice.

,------------------------------------------------------------------------
| (defvar bh/insert-inactive-timestamp t)
| 
| (defun bh/toggle-insert-inactive-timestamp ()
|   (interactive)
|   (setq bh/insert-inactive-timestamp (not bh/insert-inactive-timestamp))
|   (message "Heading timestamps are %s"
|            (if bh/insert-inactive-timestamp "ON" "OFF")))
| 
| (defun bh/insert-inactive-timestamp ()
|   (interactive)
|   (org-insert-time-stamp nil t t nil nil nil))
| 
| (defun bh/insert-heading-inactive-timestamp ()
|   (save-excursion
|     (when bh/insert-inactive-timestamp
|       (org-return)
|       (org-cycle)
|       (bh/insert-inactive-timestamp))))
| 
| (add-hook 'org-insert-heading-hook
| 'bh/insert-heading-inactive-timestamp 'append)
`-------------------------------------------------------------------------

,---------------------------------------------------------------------
| (global-set-key (kbd "<f9> T") 'bh/toggle-insert-inactive-timestamp)
| (global-set-key (kbd "<f9> t") 'bh/insert-inactive-timestamp)
`---------------------------------------------------------------------

-- 
cheers,
Thorsten

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* Re: Timestamp practices?
  2013-03-20 15:13 ` Thorsten Jolitz
@ 2013-03-21 10:15   ` Samuel Loury
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Samuel Loury @ 2013-03-21 10:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Thorsten Jolitz, emacs-orgmode

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Thorsten Jolitz <tjolitz@gmail.com> writes:

> Lawrence Bottorff <galaxybeinglambda@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> I'm trying to give each header entry a timestamp.
>
> This is from Bernt Hansen and automagically inserts a timestamp each
> time you insert a new header - if you want so. 
> If not, you can toggle the behaviour. Nice.
>
> ,------------------------------------------------------------------------
> | (defvar bh/insert-inactive-timestamp t)
> | 
> | (defun bh/toggle-insert-inactive-timestamp ()
> |   (interactive)
> |   (setq bh/insert-inactive-timestamp (not bh/insert-inactive-timestamp))
> |   (message "Heading timestamps are %s"
> |            (if bh/insert-inactive-timestamp "ON" "OFF")))
> | 
> | (defun bh/insert-inactive-timestamp ()
> |   (interactive)
> |   (org-insert-time-stamp nil t t nil nil nil))
> | 
> | (defun bh/insert-heading-inactive-timestamp ()
> |   (save-excursion
> |     (when bh/insert-inactive-timestamp
> |       (org-return)
> |       (org-cycle)
> |       (bh/insert-inactive-timestamp))))
> | 
> | (add-hook 'org-insert-heading-hook
> | 'bh/insert-heading-inactive-timestamp 'append)
> `-------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> ,---------------------------------------------------------------------
> | (global-set-key (kbd "<f9> T") 'bh/toggle-insert-inactive-timestamp)
> | (global-set-key (kbd "<f9> t") 'bh/insert-inactive-timestamp)
> `---------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> -- 
> cheers,
> Thorsten
>
>

Moreover, if you also use org-capture. You may precise a timestamp to be
put in the captured template. IIRC, This is also inspired from Bernt's
configuration.

╭────
│ (add-to-list 'org-capture-templates
│ 			  '("t" "Todo Item" entry (file+headline (expand-file-name "todo.org" org-directory) "Refile") "* TODO %?
│   :LOGBOOK:
│   - Captured       %U
│   :END:
│ "
│ 				 :kill-buffer
│ 			 )
│   )
╰────
The useful part here is the %U. (see info:org#Template expansion).

This is of course to adjust according to your needs.

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